[Fot] TR-2/3 Starter Question

[Jack Wheeler]

 Hi Randall.  Thanks again.  I took your exploded diagram and instructions to the guy working on my starter yesterday.  It looks to me like he is doing everything right, but it just won't come apart.  He's reluctant to apply too much pressure, or hit it too hard with a hammer, for fear of breaking something.  He's removed the collar and the two retaining rings, but can't slide the bendix off the shaft.  He's working with 2 starters and both are experiencing the same problem.  I'm wondering if it might just be a build-up of rust on the shaft, that is keeping it from coming apart.  Do you have any experience with this?
This is getting frustration.  Best regards.
Jack

    On Friday, October 18, 2019, 9:32:40 AM EDT, Randall <TR3driver at ca.rr.com> wrote:  
 
 That's just from the workshop manual.  Here's the whole thing
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2H2NJt34OffYWZiN2VlZGMtNTkxMi00NGUzLWE4Nz
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-- Randall 
56 TR3 TS13571L once and future daily driver
71 Stag LE1473 - awaiting engine rebuild
71-2-3 Stag - awaiting gearbox rebuild 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jack Wheeler [mailto:jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com] 
> Sent: Friday, October 18, 2019 5:40 AM
> To: Randall
> Subject: Re: [Fot] TR-2/3 Starter Question
> 
> Thanks, Randall.  The exploded diagram will be very helpful.
> 
> Jack
> 
> 
> On Thursday, October 17, 2019, 7:53:40 PM EDT, Randall 
> <TR3driver at ca.rr.com> wrote: 
> 
> 
> It has been awhile, but I've had those early starters apart 
> many times.
> 
> In the attached diagram, you pull away the collar, A, then 
> pry the retaining ring B out of it's groove.  Then you have 
> to work retaining ring C out of the pinion barrel D.  With it 
> removed, the pinion & barrel should just slide off, exposing 
> the Bendix drive inside. 
> 
> I've not asked recently, but my FLAPS used to be able to send 
> those old starters out to be rebuilt.  Quoted turnaround was 
> 1 week, but I never tried it.  Wouldn't let me talk to the 
> rebuilder directly, though.
> 
> Frankly, I got disgusted and installed a gear-drive starter 
> instead.  After 10 years of near-daily usage, it did need new 
> bearings and the brushes were about half gone, but I still 
> think it's better.  For one thing, it doesn't have the 
> "bonded rubber" drive that seems to fail quite often trying 
> to crank a high compression engine.
> 
> BFE used to sell a "fail safe" replacement for the rubber 
> drive, but I think I got the last one many years ago and Ken 
> said he wasn't having any more made.  The current proprietor 
> of BFE probably doesn't know anything about them.
> 
> -- Randall
> 56 TR3 TS13571L once and future daily driver
> 71 Stag LE1473 - awaiting engine rebuild
> 71-2-3 Stag - awaiting gearbox rebuild 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of 
> > Jack Wheeler via Fot
> > Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2019 10:29 AM
> > To: FOT List
> > Subject: [Fot] TR-2/3 Starter Question
> > 
> > Does anyone have any experience with rebuilding the early 
> > starters, as used on TR-2's and TR-3's, up to about chassis 
> > number 50,000 (the "long" starters)?  i took my starter to a 
> > local electrical shop a couple of months ago and he is stuck. 
> >  He can't figure out how to remove the pinion (with gear) 
> > from the shaft.  Is there a secret to getting the pinion off?
> > 
> > Or, does anyone know of any place that rebuilds these early 
> > starters, who may be able to help me with this question?  Or, 
> > I could send the starter to them.
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks for any help you can give me.
> > 
> > Jack Wheeler
> > 
> > 
> 
> 

  
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