[Fot] Number of logbooks for your car

Sun Jul 21 04:45:33 MDT 2019

At the 2011 Runoffs in the post-race tech line, the scrute pulled a plumb bob out of his pocket and suggested my air dam was wider than the bodywork of my Spitfire. He was looking at the fiberglass hood. Pointed out to him it could not be any further in as it was directly attached to the front valance which, after some 47 years of life, did not precisely line up with the hood, but it was original bodywork – hidden behind the dam but required to be on the car -- while the hood wasn’t OEM. (I’d add the scrute was a friend who was yanking my chain as much as anything. )

--Rocky Entriken

From: Brad Eells via Fot 
Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2019 6:08 PM
To: Bob Bownes -Seiri 
Cc: FoTTriumph 
Subject: Re: [Fot] Number of logbooks for your car

Fun story... 

I spent untold hours crafting a replacement front spoiler to be told they weren’t legal. The GCR in 1970 certainly provided for it. 

Thankfully my period photos from 1972 clearly showed the spoiler on the car.

Fun part is, I didn’t check the old reg until questioned. Measured the dimensions and the spoiler was 1970 legal by the thinnest of margins...sometimes better to be lucky than good...

Brad Eells 
Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 20, 2019, at 2:24 PM, Bob Bownes -Seiri <bownes at seiri.com> wrote:

  Keep the old picture!  

  The first time I went to tech my GP Spitfire for a vintage organization, they started hassling me about the fender flares.  

  I pulled out the logbook, with it’s Kodak provided date in the border picture, pointed to the flares, pointed to the date, and we moved on. 

  Bob

  On Jul 20, 2019, at 14:52, David Gott via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

    Hi Mike, 
    My 62 TR4 has logbooks starting from ‘72, and it was a race car starting around ‘65, which corroborates the other suggestions about start date with the log books.  Every  logbook entry through the 80’s complains about the picture used for the car was out of date- I think Bill Throop had fun with the tech inspectors, using a picture from the car’s first race, with full windshield and barely a roll bar; compared to the car as it sat with full flares and wild paint job....  “update the picture!!”  I’m sure Carl, you got a kick out of that too!

    Dave Gott

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    On Saturday, July 20, 2019, 1:01 PM, carl stenquist via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

      Check with the International Motor Racing Research Center in Watkins Glen.  I believe they have all of the SCCA archives.   607-535-9044 
      Carl Stenquist

      On Sat, Jul 20, 2019 at 12:49 PM Brad Eells via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

        SCCA did not require logbooks until 1972.

        Brad Eells
        Sent from my iPhone

        > On Jul 20, 2019, at 9:12 AM, Paul Ricco via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
        > 
        > Mike,
        > 
        > Hopefully, you enjoyed your day with IMSA at Lime Rock.
        > 
        > We have a 1962 TR4.  It has 7 logbooks, including a Canadian Log Book.  
        > 
        > We do have the 1st one that was known to be issued for our car from SCCA.  We now proudly race our TR4 with a SVRA logbook.
        > 
        > As for your gap from 1963 through 1971, that may be a function of when SCCA actually started issuing logbooks.  You may find that the 1971 logbook that you have is actually the 1st one that was issued for your car even though it was racing before then. You might want to check with someone who handles all the historical info for SVRA about when SCCA started issuing them.  SVRA has been super helpful to us and I would think they would know about that or where to direct you to learn more.  
        > 
        > Paul Ricco
        > 
        > 
        >> On Jul 20, 2019, at 10:38 AM, Mike Harmuth via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
        >> 
        >> Staying out of the heat today after flagging the IMSA race yesterday at Lime Rock and I was going through some of my paperwork. I found I have 14 SCCA logbooks for my 63 Spitfire. I'm missing the original one (1963, never a street car) through 1971. I'm guessing another 3 or 4 books used while the car was in it's prime.
        >> 
        >> How many logbooks do you (FOTers) have for your car(s)? Do you have the original one? 
        >> Curious minds want to know.
        >> 
        >> mike h
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