[Fot] Has anybody ran these new brake calipers?

[Bill]

If you watch enough Goodwood videos you see carnage that would get one banned for life at US tracks. 

> On Mar 11, 2018, at 11:52 AM, Charly via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> If you watch enough Goodwood Revival race videos, you realize they are running on the skinniest tires and probably hardest compound and they put on quite a show.  But the race 
> organizer demands period correct!
> Charly Mitchel
> TR6 #44
> 
> On Sun 11/03/18 12:57 PM , Tony Drews via Fot fot at autox.team.net sent:
>> Some of the most fun I've had driving was on skinny Dunlops.  Major
>> drift, big slip angles, what a hoot.  If we could get everyone to run
>> that kind of thing it would be neat.  I don't think that's possible
>> in the context of running within mixed marque groups though. 
>> 
>> I do think that tire technology is why we need Southwick rear axles
>> to begin with.
>> Tony
>> On 3/11/2018 10:51 AM, fubog1 via Fot wrote:
>> Henry you not only get it, but also touch on one of the main issues.
>> Yes tire technology has allowed these cars to go a lot faster than
>> was ever intended.
>> They get faster and more stuff breaks; fix one thing and then the
>> next weak-link fails.
>> At what point does it end?
>> Rack & pinion steering, tubular adjustable front suspension, light
>> brake calipers, non-triumph gearboxes, wide rims, big-bore engines,
>> the latest greatest big-$$ rubber, etc, etc, etc; some folks are
>> willing and can afford to take it to the limit, some aren't/cant
>> afford it, especially with trying to stay within some set of rules.
>> That's why tires are really the biggest equalizer, as difficult as it
>> may be to control nowadays; we really need to level the field.
>> The other point is that we have to remember that we're VINTAGE racing
>> these cars, not doing ongoing development programs for GT cars...
>> FWIW
>> Safety FasTR!
>> Glen
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: yellow04 via Fot 
>> To: fot 
>> Sent: Sun, Mar 11, 2018 11:02 am
>> Subject: Re: [Fot] Has anybody ran these new brake calipers?
>> As the person who innocently started this thread on the subject of
>> the 
>> readily available reproduction steel 16P calipers, a part I can't 
>> construe how anybody could call a cheater part, I'll add my two
>> cents...
>> Tire technology moved Vintage Racing to a place that we can't go back
>> 
>> from. Like it or not, in order to keep us safe at the speeds these
>> new 
>> tires allow us to go, you need to get with the program or take your 
>> chances. Even the venerable Hoosier Vintage TD bias ply tire can be 
>> really fast in the right hands and we have proof many cars lost
>> wheels 
>> running Vintage TD's. Safety enhancements were needed, and the gray
>> area 
>> between whats a safety enhancement and a speed enhancement will
>> always 
>> be the heart of the debate.
>> As I am now taking care of Old Blue, Bill Dentinger's TR3, a car that
>> 
>> has been considered the most vintage correct TR3 running in the
>> States, 
>> this is an issue I have personally been grappling with. It became 
>> crystal clear to me that to be comfortable running the car at any
>> level, 
>> there were some things they did "back in the day" that just don't cut
>> it 
>> any more. Updating some bits to make sure all the wheels stay on the
>> car 
>> is just common sense. Taking it beyond that, there lies the
>> conundrum... 
>> For what it's worth, under my watch Old Blue will run worm and peg 
>> steering, 87mm bore, a Triumph gearbox, and as many of Bill's
>> original 
>> Triumph Competition Dept. bits as I can. Good fun.
>> Henry
>> On 2018-03-10 02:18, Tony Drews via Fot wrote:
>>> Not sure how a brake question turned into the annual "what is
>> vintage"
>>> debate - seems late in the season for it this time...
>>> 
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