[Fot] Oil Cooler or Oil filter first?

robert bownes bownes at web9.com
Mon Dec 3 14:45:17 MST 2018


After cleaning out a filter that survived a bad bearing in my 1147 Spit
(Back in the Day) and re-using it (It was after the filter), the next
engine lasted a whole 22 minutes, about 3 sessions short of a race weekend,
before the very same failure occurred. I've never re-used a cooler since.

But I do have a stack of 3 or 4 for anyone who wants one. :)

I miss that car. But not the grenades that it kept under the hood.




On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 4:20 PM Rocky Entriken via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Any bad stuff in the oil lines is gonna originate in the engine, so make
> the filter the first stop (and usually the shortest line). Then the cooler.
> And what nobody else mentioned, a check valve after the cooler before it
> goes back to the engine (keeps oil from flowing backwards into cooler, say
> on start-up.) My Accusump is plumbed into a Tee that’s just before the
> engine inlet – what goes to the Accusump is filtered and cooled oil, and
> what comes from the Accusump goes only to the engine because the check
> valve prevents it going the other way.
>
> And yeah, coolers are cheap. If I’m concerned I’ll flush out the lines
> (self-service car wash does the trick, use high-pressure rinse), but buy a
> new cooler.
>
> --Rocky
> *From:* barry rosenberg via Fot
> *Sent:* Monday, December 3, 2018 7:27 AM
> *To:* fubog1 ; Phil Gott
> *Cc:* fot at autox.team.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Fot] Oil Cooler or Oil filter first?
>
> Yes, filter first. But what I have run into on some customers cars is the
> way the cooler lines run. Most coolers are mounted with the fittings on
> top. This does not permit the cooler to drain and when you change your oil,
> the cooler retains the old oil. You have to remove the cooler and at least
> one line to drain the old oil out. Try to set your cooler a little high
> with the fitting on the bottom so it can self drain. Of course, this means
> you must pre-lube the engine before startup. I also set my cooler behind
> the radiator and not in front. NASCAR experts say that the closer the oil
> and water temp are to each other, the better.
>
>
> Barry
>
> On Monday, December 3, 2018, 8:02:15 AM EST, Phil Gott via Fot <
> fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>
> Filter first. Keeps the crud out of the cooker. Coolers are hard to clean.
> Good thought By Glen to replace the cooker on engine refreshing.
> With a cooler in the system, also a good idea to prelube the engine with
> an Accusump upon cold start. Oil cooler lines are long and may drain upon
> standing a while.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 3, 2018, at 7:02 AM, fubog1 via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> I typically run an inspectable (Oberg) out of the engine before the
> cooler, and a second filter after the cooler.
> It may be overkill but it eliminates the possibility of oil cooler trash
> getting in the engine.
> I also replace the cooler @ every engine freshen-up.
> Glen
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bud Rolofson via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> -To: FOT <fot at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Mon, Dec 3, 2018 2:51 am
> Subject: [Fot] Oil Cooler or Oil filter first?
>
> Listerati,
>
> For those of you running a remote oil cooler and remote oil filter do you
> run the hose coming OUT of the engine into the cooler first or the filter
> first? Just wanted to see how and why (if there’s a reason) most run their
> lines.
>
> Thanks
> Bud
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