[Fot] Mounting position for Haylon

[Duncan Charlton]

Halon 1211 (it’s a liquified gas) can cause cardiac arrhythmia but a concentrated dose of long duration is required.  It does displace oxygen but that’s not its main method of fire suppression, as with CO2:
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S073567579690087X <https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S073567579690087X>

I’m using Cold Fire foam (I bought the entire setup from Jegs), which is similar to AFFF.  Its down side is that everything gets slippery but the big upside is that if you end up directly over a pool of fuel it will smother it and suppress the vapors whether it’s on fire or not. I want the longest possible period to extricate myself (assuming I can get out on my own).

http://www.coldfire.biz <http://www.coldfire.biz/>

I didn’t want to use dry chemical (harder to clean up and it will corrode aluminum) or Halon or its replacement, Halotron, because although it excels at putting out a fire, it works best in an enclosed area and once the wind blows away the agent it can’t stop a reignition.

Duncan
(retired firefighter)


> On Apr 19, 2018, at 8:05 AM, Bill Tobin via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> Rocky, a couple things:
> Isn't Haylon pretty noxious?
> I use an AFFF system. Last year I got some solid info from Pegasus about useful life of the system. They told me it was recommended to replace the bottle's mixture every three years. You can do it yourself for about $60. Cheap insurance.
> A friend set off his AFFF system by accident; said there was foam everywhere!
> Cheers, Bill
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Rocky Entriken via Fot <mailto:fot at autox.team.net>
>> To: Mike Harmuth <mailto:ofracer at gmail.com> ; FoTTriumph <mailto:fot at autox.team.net>
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 5:18 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Fot] Mounting position for Haylon
>> 
>> Mine is horizontal. Seemed to fit well in the footwell of my Spitfire.
>>  
>> But yow! Been in there since 2005? While it’s out of the car, you should really have it checked and refilled. The powder in the bottle can cake over time and even if the gauge shows green, you pull the handle and nothin’ happens. Find any fire and emergency equipment supplier in your yellow pages and take the bottle to them. They’ll check it out, reload it, hang a new tag on it. It’s something that should be done every couple of years or so – ask them how often when you take it in, but I guarantee 13 years is too long!
>>  
>> They can probably give you the best answer as far as mounting it too, as long as you’re in their neighborhood.
>>  
>> --Rocky Entriken
>>  
>> From: Mike Harmuth via Fot <>
>> Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2018 12:26 PM
>> To: FoTTriumph <>
>> Subject: [Fot] Mounting position for Haylon
>>  
>> I just pulled the Haylon, plumbed in fire extinguisher, along with all the other stuff bolted to the floor in my Spitfire to do some touch up painting. It's been in the car since I bought it in 2005 and is still good (unscrewed the bottle and checked the cable pull as well). My question is, how should it be mounted? It's currently horizontal, which makes me think it's going to discharge liquid if I ever have to use it. Should it be mounted vertically or it it designed to dump liquid out which will then vaporize and push out the air, strangulating the fire?
>> 
>> Google is no help, all I get are ads for green replacement type systems.
>> 
>> thanks
>> mike h
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