[Fot] Planning for Triumphs and Personnel with Sebring History

[Bob Kramer]

Hey all,

 

I got a hold of TJ Kelly. He is more of a Triumph guy than I knew. He was racing a TR6 in Florida at the same time as Group 44 and the Kastner Brophy teams were at it elsewhere. He told me that Daytona in 1967 was 9 degrees when he was driving in my TR4, not top. He remembers that the car lasted the night and expired at about 7 AM with Wilbur Picket driving. I had to run but I am going to learn more as we stay in touch. The best news is that he is an active 78 year old, lives on a boat (a big boat) and will be in Jacksonville for March. He sounded like he will do whatever it takes to make it to Sebring. 

 

I better get working on that car……………

Bob

From: Duncan Charlton [mailto:duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 1:54 PM
To: Bob Kramer
Cc: Joe Alexander; James J Dolan; fot at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] Planning for Triumphs and Personnel with Sebring History

 

Bob,

 

I might be able to get you his contact information from the author of several books on racing Morgans.  I asked him if he still has the contact info and if he’ll share it.  I hear T. J. is retired and in Florida.

 

Duncan Charlton

Elgin, Texas USA

 

 

 

On Aug 25, 2016, at 11:48 AM, Bob Kramer <rkramer3 at austin.rr.com> wrote:

 

My TR4 was a privateer car campaigned by Joe Hines Jr. He ran it at both Daytona and Sebring in 1967 with co-drivers Wilber Pickett, Whit Tharin,  C.C Canada and T.J. Kelly. Joe Hines is racing in the clouds. I talked to him back when I bought the car and he provided me with a few period pictures and some background. He ran the car just one year and continued on with other cars. He ran a few time in the Daytona 500. T.J. Kelly was a long time Morgan racer but I haven’t been able to locate him. Wilber Pickett has a long racing resume and he even shared a car with Bob Tullius at some point. C.C Canada was around a bit too. Does anyone know of the whereabouts of any of these drivers?

 

Bob

 

Plans are being made to be at Amelia Island and Sebring 12 Hour in March 2017.

 

The plan so far is to have the:

 

57 Sebring TR3 from the UK

63 Sebring TR4 from the UK

TR250K that ran in the late 60s

Bob Kramer's Sebring TR4

 

Russ Pierce plans to bring the Macau.

 

HSR is the sanctioning body and will have the schedule and entry information.

 

Lodging is an issue and should be pursued early on.

 

(I plan to stay at the track)

 

There are no designated project people leading the charge on this. Hopefully, the FOT attending will share information and provide support to each other.

 

It is quite possible that the original drivers will attend along with Kas and Peg. I am hoping that the current car owners will extend those invitations to Bob Tullius, Ed Diehl, and Bob Johns.

 

I AM looking for a means to get Kas & Peg there and to secure lodging. Any ideas are welcome.

 

Potentially, this could be one of the most significant Triumph Vintage Reunions of current times. Tim Suddard called. I know he is interested in covering it. Burt Levy is also interested.

 

And then there is the Kastner Cup in June. The U.K. Triumphs will be shipped there to Black Hawk Farms to run the Kastner Cup. How cool is that?

 

Anyway, I hope the Amelia and Sebring events gain great traction. I suspect that it will. There is no doubt that the 15th Running of the Kastner Cup will be huge. (Hosted by Brian Garcia and Jason Ostrowski.)

 

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