[Fot] Damn Headers (Again)

[John Hasty]

I had them send the plate, fit it to my head & sent it back to be built... Fits fine.  Their jig is off quite a bit.

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On Jul 18, 2015, at 5:09 PM, "Jim Gray" <toodamnfunky at comcast.net<mailto:toodamnfunky at comcast.net>> wrote:

Mike,
I bought the stahl header jig for the TR4 and Richard already owned the TR6 jig they had.
I completely stripped the Stahl jig as there was nothing about it I liked.
I can’t get back to making any headers until fall.
jim g

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From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mike Deweerd
Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2015 2:57 PM
To: Dan Forgey
Cc: Triumph List; triumph fot
Subject: Re: [Fot] Damn Headers (Again)

Dan
I got into a discussion with ???"someone"???? at Summit point who told me that ???"another someone" ??? Had bought the tooling and design from Stahl for the TR4s ..... I wish I could remember who it was that was telling me this and who it was that bought it from Stahl .....hopefully someone will chime in ......someone with a better memory then me :)
It may have been Richard Good ???

Anyway I purchased a stahl header just before they retired and had quite the fitting issues as well ...in Stahl's defence my head is milled down so the flange hit the block but the flange was also too big for my intake to fit and the bolt holes didn't line up to the head..... a slight massage of the frame and it fit passed the frame but I ended up welding the inside of the tubes do I could remove enough material to fit the intake :(
Good luck
Cheers Mike





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On Jul 18, 2015, at 4:16 PM, Dan Forgey <cofrog at q.com<mailto:cofrog at q.com>> wrote:
Headers on my TR4A race car have been a pain.  Ones that came with the car were the stuff from the big three.  Bought Stahl headers that wouldn't clear the lower A-arm mount and had other fitment issues.

So had some custom one's made at Hank's Hot Rods in Colorado who is involved with NASA.  He quoted me about $600 and I let him have the Stahl headers and car with instructions to make some with basic design of the Stahl headers that would fit.  When done the price was 2.5 times the quote, nowhere near the design of the Stahls and showed shoddy workmanship. Don't go there! Only good part on the was the correct size flange I got from Mordy Dunst.

The shoddy swordsmanship has caught up with me after doing repairs in the past and there is an unrepairable hole where the #4 tube is entering the collector.

Chris Marx has recommended a Phoenix stainless steel racing header that he has used with success. Haven't been able to find this (yet).  However found these; http://www.rimmerbros.co.uk/Item--i-RF4075.  Has anyone used them or have an opinion?  I'd be tempted to try Ken Gillander's headers but he is indisposed at this time.


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