[Fot] Gt6 differential failure
Keith Files
keithfiles at btinternet.com
Mon Jul 13 13:15:48 MDT 2015
Hi Jason,
It was me discussing diff coolers.
I have the photographs of my installation now and will be sending them to the guys who wanted to see them. I will copy you too if you wish.
Best regards,
Keith
Sent from my iPad
> On 13 Jul 2015, at 16:17, Jason Ostrowski <jason at multivintage.com> wrote:
>
> Ah yes...Cooling.
> While you have it out maybe it's worth while to see about adding a temp gauge back there.
> I think its usually done at the oil plug but I'm not sure.
> That would seem to perhaps help in preventing a minor fail turn into a major explosion.
>
> I much enjoyed the thread about the Diff cooling options for the endurance TR6's a while back.
> I think it was Keith Files and some others discussing some of the options for Chump car guys.
> The unit was mounted in the modified wheel well if I remember correctly.
> The tough part for our tiny GT6 seems to be where to put the cooler and plumbing.
> Has Anyone out there ever used an external diff cooler on a GT6?
> If so, how was it set up?
> Thanks!
>
> Jason Ostrowski
> Friendly Ghost Racing
> 1969 Triumph GT6+ Racecars
>
>
>
>> On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 9:19 AM, Scott Janzen <sjanzen at me.com> wrote:
>> thanks, Jason - yes, I was banging through the gears, and there's now a steep 150' +/- DROP at this track, downhill turn, where I was in second gear at 7,000 RPM, first accelerating, then letting it slow me down as I approached the sharp right to the uphill climb. I'm sure that did not do the diff any good.
>>
>> Somehow the idea of putting a Subaru diff in this car does not feel very "vintage".
>>
>> Question - has anyone checked the oil temp, and would cooling make a difference? I do run Redline 75-85 gear oil.
>>
>> I will report back and send carnage photos when I get it out.
>>
>> On Jul 13, 2015, at 10:12 AM, Jason Ostrowski wrote:
>>
>> I agree that it is consumable.
>> A change to something different would seem to lead to a redesign of all the parts that mate to it and that could turn into a whole new set of other related projects.
>> Likely a costly and complex endeavor to say the least.
>> Knowing you, I assume you are using a quality oil already as Steve recommends.
>> I notice you are racing faster lately and seem to be doing great with the car.
>>
>> Begin Public Service announcement to all FoT...
>>
>> That being said, (especially the faster you go) don't forget to remind yourself regularly about how you need to treat the drivetrain.
>> Perhaps most importantly on this issue is careful driving with a constant focus to smooth transition between the gears.
>> And really important is super smooth take-offs.
>> I'm lucky to have John Reed (best GT6 racer of all time) at the track with me most of the time.
>> He is never afraid to remind me of this.
>> And does so on a regular basis when I'm leaving the grid.
>> Even after all these years of coaching he will still often yell at me through my helmet prior to taking off.
>> something like....
>> "Ride that F$#&%ng clutch baby!!"
>> or "Easy take off".
>> Wisdom I'm not afraid to admit I need to be reminded of in a tense moment taking off to hit the track.
>> One slip of the foot or abrupt start is all it takes to do damage to the differential.
>> I can trace most of my differential failures back to sketchy shift transitions or abrupt starts...
>> We all hate to admit that an equipment failure is our own fault but, speaking for myself, I know it often is.
>> This was an FoT Public Service Announcement...
>> Brought to you by Friendly Ghost Racing.
>>
>> Jason Ostrowski
>> Friendly Ghost Racing
>> 1969 Triumph GT6+ Racecars
>>
>>
>>> On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 7:01 AM, Scott Janzen <sjanzen at me.com> wrote:
>>> Mine disintegrated in a big way in the last race yesterday at Pitt Race. Last one did the same thing about 3-4 years ago.
>>> Should I just consider this a consumable item, or swap to something stronger? What are other vintage racers doing?
>>>
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