[Fot] GT6 Connecting rods

Fri Dec 11 19:27:16 MST 2015

My crank was nitrided at a local steel treating shop here in Rochester NY then back to machine shop for (re)polishing, (re)tolerancing, balancing 26A GT6+, 28 TR6Brian Schirano
585-305-0349 Cell 
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      From: Duncan Charlton <duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com>
 To: Greg Blake <gblake58tr3 at icloud.com> 
Cc: Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
 Sent: Friday, December 11, 2015 9:06 PM
 Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 Connecting rods

Dennis sent my Ford 1500 crank to a guy in Colorado for nitriding.  He said it would be about $800, including final straightening and grinding to spec (Monday I’ll pick it up and find out what the final cost is).

Duncan

> On Dec 11, 2015, at 3:36 PM, Greg Blake <gblake58tr3 at icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> Sounds like a deal considering what we pay Dennis these days which does not include the nitriding process. 
> 
> Can you specify bearing clearances and radius treatment?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 9, 2015, at 9:46 AM, rkramer3 at austin.rr.com wrote:
>> 
>> Does anyone have experience with APT nitrided cranks? They list a fully race prepped and nitrided 6 cylinder crank at just under a grand.
>> Bob Kramer
>> rkramer3 at austin.rr.com
>> 
>> ---- Brian Schirano <bschirano at yahoo.com> wrote: 
>>> 2 Cents from a modest built GT6 racer (IE 10:1 CR, stock rods, crank, Good GP3 cam, etc).  Russ's comments are dead on - building the car is one expense, racing it is a recurring one and his estimate of $1000 per event is good. So build in margin of safety in the motor (and other components) where you can.
>>> aluminum flywheel and clutch & PP I went to Ted Shumaker, TSI - TS Imports
>>> RE the rods - at the time of my first (only) rebuild a couple years ago I couldn't afford carrillos or Pauters, but did spend some long green on nitriding and polishing the crank, balancing everything, and of course the ARP hardware everywhere that counts . My car is NOT a high rev machine, I self limit at 6200 - 6300 RPM and it seems all the straights are uphill so she never redlines there anywise!
>>> So to me, it can be done, but has to be consistent with the rest of your build. my next build will be a higher CR and hotter cam, so will be upgrading rods, and pistons as well. But the first build was built conservative for longevity.
>>> Brian 26A GT6+, 28 TR6Brian Schirano
>>> 585-305-0349 Cell 
>>> BSchirano at yahoo.com
>>>    From: Spitfire Racing <spitfire_racing at twcny.rr.com>
>>> To: 'Jamie' <tr6driver at yahoo.com>; 'McKearn McKearn' <mckearn2 at gmail.com> 
>>> Cc: 'FOT list' <fot at autox.team.net>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 9, 2015 8:02 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 Connecting rods
>>> 
>>> A properly built and modified race engine represents a mighty investment not
>>> only of dollars but of time. Is that really where you want to pinch pennies?
>>> After all, with the exception of pistons and crank that is one of the
>>> primary components and all it takes is one piece inside an engine to reduce
>>> all your work and investment to nothing more than scrap metal. One seized
>>> valve, or substandard bolt even can be a disaster. It doesn't take much.
>>> Realize all the ancillary invested expenditures that are also at risk like a
>>> weekend's entry fee you lose in an engine failure; the cost of time off from
>>> work to go to a race weekend; the cost of food and lodging for the race
>>> outing and the cost of just getting there. When asked, I usually advise
>>> folks to figure a race weekend is ~$1000 minimum when you roll all in.
>>> 
>>> A number of racers have run Pauter rods as stated before by Bill and these
>>> do present a less expensive alternative. I had the opportunity to rebuild an
>>> engine last year with Pauter rods and they were quite substantial and were
>>> well designed, constructed and balanced. Personally I have seen far too many
>>> Chinese knock-offs; reproductions (call them what you will), that fail to
>>> come close to the parts they try to mimic. 
>>> I suggest you perhaps delay your build until your war chest allows for top
>>> quality internals. Do it once and do it right the first time and reduce the
>>> potential for disappointing expensive disaster.
>>> 
>>> Russ Moore
>>> Spitfire #49
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jamie
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2015 6:22 AM
>>> To: McKearn McKearn
>>> Cc: FOT list
>>> Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 Connecting rods
>>> 
>>> Although I was initially very wary, they have worked well for over 1,000
>>> race miles in our (horror) MGB engine.
>>> 
>>> Jamie Palmer
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Dec 8, 2015, at 11:52 PM, McKearn McKearn <mckearn2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Gents.
>>>>    I am looking for feedback on the MaxSpeeding connecting rods for GT6.
>>> Can't afford Carrillos and I'm hoping these are good. Also am still
>>> searching for an aluminum flywheel without having something custom made. and
>>> would like input on what type of clutch to use as well . Lets call it a race
>>> car for the sake of argument....
>>>>                                Thanks.  P.J.
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