<html><head></head><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:16px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1449860634594_59901"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1449860634594_59965">My crank was nitrided at a local steel treating shop here in Rochester NY then back to machine shop for (re)polishing, (re)tolerancing, balancing</span></div><div></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1449860634594_59902"> </div><div class="signature" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1449860634594_59967"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1449860634594_59966">26A GT6+, 28 TR6</div>Brian Schirano<br>585-305-0349 Cell <br>BSchirano@yahoo.com</div><br> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1449860634594_60031"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1449860634594_60030"> <div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1449860634594_60029"> <font size="2" face="Arial" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1449860634594_60028"> <hr size="1" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1449860634594_60027"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Duncan Charlton <duncan.charlton54@gmail.com><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Greg Blake <gblake58tr3@icloud.com> <br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> Fot <fot@autox.team.net><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Friday, December 11, 2015 9:06 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Fot] GT6 Connecting rods<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1449860634594_60032"><br>Dennis sent my Ford 1500 crank to a guy in Colorado for nitriding. He said it would be about $800, including final straightening and grinding to spec (Monday I’ll pick it up and find out what the final cost is).<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Duncan<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">> On Dec 11, 2015, at 3:36 PM, Greg Blake <<a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:gblake58tr3@icloud.com" href="mailto:gblake58tr3@icloud.com">gblake58tr3@icloud.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> Sounds like a deal considering what we pay Dennis these days which does not include the nitriding process. <br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> Can you specify bearing clearances and radius treatment?<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> Sent from my iPhone<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">>> On Dec 9, 2015, at 9:46 AM, <a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:rkramer3@austin.rr.com" href="mailto:rkramer3@austin.rr.com">rkramer3@austin.rr.com</a> wrote:<br clear="none">>> <br clear="none">>> Does anyone have experience with APT nitrided cranks? They list a fully race prepped and nitrided 6 cylinder crank at just under a grand.<br clear="none">>> Bob Kramer<br clear="none">>> <a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:rkramer3@austin.rr.com" href="mailto:rkramer3@austin.rr.com">rkramer3@austin.rr.com</a><br clear="none">>> <br clear="none">>> ---- Brian Schirano <<a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:bschirano@yahoo.com" href="mailto:bschirano@yahoo.com">bschirano@yahoo.com</a>> wrote: <br clear="none">>>> 2 Cents from a modest built GT6 racer (IE 10:1 CR, stock rods, crank, Good GP3 cam, etc). Russ's comments are dead on - building the car is one expense, racing it is a recurring one and his estimate of $1000 per event is good. So build in margin of safety in the motor (and other components) where you can.<br clear="none">>>> aluminum flywheel and clutch & PP I went to Ted Shumaker, TSI - TS Imports<br clear="none">>>> RE the rods - at the time of my first (only) rebuild a couple years ago I couldn't afford carrillos or Pauters, but did spend some long green on nitriding and polishing the crank, balancing everything, and of course the ARP hardware everywhere that counts . My car is NOT a high rev machine, I self limit at 6200 - 6300 RPM and it seems all the straights are uphill so she never redlines there anywise!<br clear="none">>>> So to me, it can be done, but has to be consistent with the rest of your build. my next build will be a higher CR and hotter cam, so will be upgrading rods, and pistons as well. But the first build was built conservative for longevity.<br clear="none">>>> Brian 26A GT6+, 28 TR6Brian Schirano<br clear="none">>>> 585-305-0349 Cell <br clear="none">>>> <a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:BSchirano@yahoo.com" href="mailto:BSchirano@yahoo.com">BSchirano@yahoo.com</a><br clear="none">>>> From: Spitfire Racing <<a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:spitfire_racing@twcny.rr.com" href="mailto:spitfire_racing@twcny.rr.com">spitfire_racing@twcny.rr.com</a>><br clear="none">>>> To: 'Jamie' <<a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:tr6driver@yahoo.com" href="mailto:tr6driver@yahoo.com">tr6driver@yahoo.com</a>>; 'McKearn McKearn' <<a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:mckearn2@gmail.com" href="mailto:mckearn2@gmail.com">mckearn2@gmail.com</a>> <br clear="none">>>> Cc: 'FOT list' <<a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:fot@autox.team.net" href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net">fot@autox.team.net</a>><br clear="none">>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 9, 2015 8:02 AM<br clear="none">>>> Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 Connecting rods<br clear="none">>>> <br clear="none">>>> A properly built and modified race engine represents a mighty investment not<br clear="none">>>> only of dollars but of time. Is that really where you want to pinch pennies?<br clear="none">>>> After all, with the exception of pistons and crank that is one of the<br clear="none">>>> primary components and all it takes is one piece inside an engine to reduce<br clear="none">>>> all your work and investment to nothing more than scrap metal. One seized<br clear="none">>>> valve, or substandard bolt even can be a disaster. It doesn't take much.<br clear="none">>>> Realize all the ancillary invested expenditures that are also at risk like a<br clear="none">>>> weekend's entry fee you lose in an engine failure; the cost of time off from<br clear="none">>>> work to go to a race weekend; the cost of food and lodging for the race<br clear="none">>>> outing and the cost of just getting there. When asked, I usually advise<br clear="none">>>> folks to figure a race weekend is ~$1000 minimum when you roll all in.<br clear="none">>>> <br clear="none">>>> A number of racers have run Pauter rods as stated before by Bill and these<br clear="none">>>> do present a less expensive alternative. I had the opportunity to rebuild an<br clear="none">>>> engine last year with Pauter rods and they were quite substantial and were<br clear="none">>>> well designed, constructed and balanced. Personally I have seen far too many<br clear="none">>>> Chinese knock-offs; reproductions (call them what you will), that fail to<br clear="none">>>> come close to the parts they try to mimic. <br clear="none">>>> I suggest you perhaps delay your build until your war chest allows for top<br clear="none">>>> quality internals. Do it once and do it right the first time and reduce the<br clear="none">>>> potential for disappointing expensive disaster.<br clear="none">>>> <br clear="none">>>> Russ Moore<br clear="none">>>> Spitfire #49<br clear="none">>>> <br clear="none">>>> -----Original Message-----<br clear="none">>>> From: Fot [mailto:<a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net" href="mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net">fot-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] On Behalf Of Jamie<br clear="none">>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2015 6:22 AM<br clear="none">>>> To: McKearn McKearn<br clear="none">>>> Cc: FOT list<br clear="none">>>> Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 Connecting rods<br clear="none">>>> <br clear="none">>>> Although I was initially very wary, they have worked well for over 1,000<br clear="none">>>> race miles in our (horror) MGB engine.<br clear="none">>>> <br clear="none">>>> Jamie Palmer<br clear="none">>>> <br clear="none">>>> <br clear="none">>>>> On Dec 8, 2015, at 11:52 PM, McKearn McKearn <<a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:mckearn2@gmail.com" href="mailto:mckearn2@gmail.com">mckearn2@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none">>>>> <br clear="none">>>>> Hi Gents.<br clear="none">>>>> I am looking for feedback on the MaxSpeeding connecting rods for GT6.<br clear="none">>>> Can't afford Carrillos and I'm hoping these are good. Also am still<br clear="none">>>> searching for an aluminum flywheel without having something custom made. and<br clear="none">>>> would like input on what type of clutch to use as well . Lets call it a race<br clear="none">>>> car for the sake of argument....<br clear="none">>>>> Thanks. 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