[Fot] Group 44 Spitfire rollover?

[horizonracing at msn.com]

Can you decribe the crack/break. is it a clean shear? Can you see a lot of  
small lines across the face(s) ? Dirty at the point of failure? 

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-----Original message-----
From: "Barr, Scott" <sbarr at McCarty-Law.com>
To: Tony and Annie Garmey <horizonracing at msn.com>,  
edwardbarnard at prodigy.net, sgroh1 at comcast.net, fot at autox.team.net
Sent: Mon, Feb 27, 2012 07:18:37 PST
Subject: RE: [Fot] Group 44 Spitfire rollover?

<< How long were the axles in service ? when were they last Crack
checked ?  >>

 

Approximately three years.  I didn't crack-check them during that time.

 

Scott

 

 

From: Tony and Annie Garmey [mailto:horizonracing at msn.com] 
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 8:27 AM
To: edwardbarnard at prodigy.net; sgroh1 at comcast.net; fot at autox.team.net;
Barr, Scott
Subject: RE: [Fot] Group 44 Spitfire rollover?

 

How long were the axles in service ? when were they last Crack checked ?

 

> Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 05:19:01 -0800
> From: edwardbarnard at prodigy.net
> To: sgroh1 at comcast.net; fot at autox.team.net; sbarr at McCarty-Law.com
> Subject: Re: [Fot] Group 44 Spitfire rollover?
> 
> Scott:
> Your's was the only set of axles from the original 10-20 sets built by
> Summer's to my specs that failed. If I remember correctly, you had hit
a curb
> earlier in the day, which we thought may have dammaged the axles. In
the
> original design there is no taper between the hub and the axle.
> The next year I gave the design to Mr's Summer's because I didn't want
to dink
> with axles anymore. Of course, since then time has taken it's
toll...Summer's
> Brothers has changed hands (twice) and the waters have been poluted. I
ordered
> two sets from the then owner of Summer's four years ago and what we
received
> from them was not the original design. The bearings have been changed
to a
> smaller size, and the axle is not retained in the housing in the same
> manner. One of those two sets is currently experiencing issues thay
may affect
> it's performance. Truly disappointing.
> Right now, the Chuck Gee designed, Joe Siam sold, (and sadly when last
> checked, Summer's built) axles are the best design out there. Where as
the
> original design/built axles I did were in the $900-$1,200 range,
Chuck's
> design, being more extensive, is a bit more pricey. But, what price
safety. If
> I were building today I would use Chuck's design. The ones I did
filled the
> void that existed in 2001-2.
> JMTC
> -Ed- 
> 
> --- On Sat, 2/25/12, Barr, Scott <sbarr at McCarty-Law.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> From: Barr, Scott <sbarr at McCarty-Law.com>
> Subject: Re: [Fot] Group 44 Spitfire rollover?
> To: "Steven Groh" <sgroh1 at comcast.net>, fot at autox.team.net
> Date: Saturday, February 25, 2012, 4:26 PM
> 
> 
> Yes, my warning sign was a loud bang and a sudden tilt of the horizon
45 
> degrees to port, followed by a 720-snap spin. Hard to miss. 
> 
> Scott B.