[Fot] Nomination for FoT membership

Mon Sep 22 22:46:44 MDT 2008

Sorry to hear about the crash Jeff, but I'm glad you are doing fine.

Jack
(Think the TR3 at cruise night in Covington)

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From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of quicktr4
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 9:06 PM
To: Bill Babcock; BillDentin at aol.com
Cc: Friends of Triumph
Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination for FoT membership

I had a bad one last weekend including an ambulance ride to the hospital to
check me out. in alittle bit wet conditions my tr4 really stepped out on
turn in to turn nine at seattle. very uncharicteristic of my car. natural
reaction is to catcth the slide. when it did hook up it sent me strait into
the wall at about 60 or 70 mph it was a big hit. all the safety gear did its
job and yes i hade a hans on. after this our club is concidering making some
device manditory. i dont even have a stiff neck. I am now a strong
advicator. The car didnt fair so well both front frame rails bent all the
way into the oil pan. you can just imagine the rest.
Jeff Quick  

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Bill Babcock <mailto:Billb at bnj.com>  
To: BillDentin at aol.com 
Cc: Friends of Triumph <mailto:fot at autox.team.net>  
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 6:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination for FoT membership

Sorry to hear about the fatality. We really are playing a rough game here.
We had two bad accidents at the SOVREN Fall Finale this weekend. FOTer Jeff
Quick hit the wall straight on in his TR4. They took him off in the
ambulance on a back board, but he's okay. The car is completely flat across
the nose and about a foot shorter. Hard impact, straight in. Could have been
a bad one, I'm glad he's OK. I'm pretty sure Jeff wears a HANS device.
Another driver pretty much wrote off a very nice Alpha.  

We get away with a lot because of all the retrofitted safely equipment, but
I've met more than a few old time drivers who expressed amazement that we
don't have more fatalities. they basically say "those cars were damned
dangerous back when we built them, what do you think has changed".   

What has changed is the safety gear, and I believe in keeping all of mine as
up to date as possible. Fresh belts before the expiration date or when they
show any damage or have been "exercised" as with a Corvette shoving one self
around a bit, Hans device. Good helmet. great roll cage. Other than that,
you pays your money and you takes your chances. 

Pat's a great guy, it was a pleasure to meet him last year. Next year is
Peyote's fiftieth birthday. Big doings planned. T shirts, peyote buttons,
and a new motto: "Pissing off drivers with nicer cars for fifty years"

I agree, Diane has a fine rear end, in fact a stellar one. Peyote's,
however, is a tad lumpy. 

On Sep 22, 2008, at 11:32 AM, BillDentin at aol.com wrote:

In a message dated 09/22/2008 11:37:23 AM Central Daylight Time,
Billb at bnj.com writes:

I thought Tony was already a member or I would have nominated him long ago.
Not only does he drive the wheels off the TR250K (and anything else he sits
in, except his truck which he drives like a little old lady), but he also
maintains it, and the Bill Hart Devin, AND John James's TR4, and he brought
Peyote back to life this year, and will finish making it far too pretty over
the winter. Yes, he's going to replace the "Aluminum foil sack of walnuts"
rear end that I carefully fabricated on my $200 English Wheel. Some people
have no respect for amateur bodywork. Like Diane for example, who is paying
Tony to replace the rear end. 

On the Peyote?  Diane's rear end is fine.

I saw Pat Starr at ROAD AMERICA over the week end.  He borrowed a trailer
and hauled his Morgan (same car he's raced since the 1960s) down to ELVF.
He is still a great driver (2:51.892), less than two seconds short of his
best lap ever.  At the cocktail party Saturday night (Peter Egan spoke) Pat
was talking about the Peyote and describing clear plastic spoilers they used
to run on the car in the rear.  Interesting.

Bill

PS...Sad to say...there was another fatality in the second Race Group 2
practice session on Friday.  Dr. Surjit Hermon lost control of his 1957
Eastgate (LOTUS XI continuation or replica) and hit a stationary Mini Cooper
S parked off course near the apex to Turn 13.  High speed (80 mph +/-)
impact (sideways).  Suspected broken neck.  I had raced with this guy many
times.  He was competent, courteous, never aggressive.  He apparently lost
control, tried to correct, and went sliding sidways into the Mini.  The
VSCDA has been running vintage racing events for thirty years and never had
a really serious accident, much less a fatality.  Now two in a month.   

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