[Fot] gasoline comparison

[Bill Babcock]

And there's an ethanol shortage, that won't go away for a long time.
On Sep 14, 2008, at 8:14 AM, Tim Murphy wrote:

> As of September 1, 2008 all gasoline must have 10% ethanol by Federal
> mandate.  So I was told by a Mobil distributor.  As always, a really  
> well
> thought out Federal mandate.  At the same time they raise the CAFE  
> standards
> they lower the MPG by mandating ethanol.  There was also a bill in  
> Congress
> to increase the mandated percentage of ethanol.  Guess which  
> lobbying group
> was pushing that bill?
>
> Tim
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim" <britbits at netzero.com>
> To: <fot at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 10:08 PM
> Subject: Re: [Fot] gasoline comparison
>
>
>> When MBTE was first proposed as an additive the local Triumph club
>> president
>> did a bit of investigation.. according to what he'd come up with  
>> the MBTE
>> mix was designed for catalyst equipped cars... for non-catalyst  
>> equipped
>> cars (the bulk of the Triumphs) the incompletely burned emissions  
>> were
>> actually worse for the environment.
>>
>> Just another example of poorly researched "science" being foisted  
>> on the
>> American public.  Don't get me started on the R-12 vs R-134 bs.
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Jim
>> Dallas
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: fot-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:fot- 
>> bounces at autox.team.net] On
>> Behalf Of Randall
>> Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 10:02 PM
>> To: fot at autox.team.net
>> Subject: Re: [Fot] gasoline comparison
>>
>>
>>> Helps the emissions (as the MTBE was supposed to do also!).
>>
>> Don't kid yourself.  For anything made in the last 20 years or so,  
>> it does
>> absolutely nothing for emissions, as the computer just tweaks the  
>> mixture
>> richer to compensate for the "oxygenated" fuel.
>>
>> For most cars made before 1970 or so, it does make them run leaner,  
>> which
>> does reduce tailpipe emissions.
>>
>> But that leaves an awful lot of cars in between with fixed mixtures  
>> that
>> were already tuned lean running on pure gasoline.  And it only  
>> takes one
>> of
>> them pushed into lean misfire under cruise conditions, to emit more
>> pollution than the oxygenate could reduce in hundreds of pre-computer
>> cars.
>> Of course eventually they'll burn up the valves and so on, but  
>> you'd be
>> surprised at the number of them still running around here.  And  
>> remember,
>> these are the only cars where oxygenated fuel is supposed to reduce
>> emissions at all.
>>
>> And of course for Triumphs, we just adjust the mixture to suit the  
>> fuel,
>> so
>> it does no good at all.
>>
>> Randall in the PRC (People's Republic of California)
>>
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