[Fot] Valve Spring Compression Length

Greg "Lunker" Hilyer Lunkercars at earthlink.net
Wed Jul 16 12:28:50 MDT 2008


Scott,
I just went thru this on a TR4 - I assume your dealing with a Spit,  
so my #s won't help you. But... contact your cam manufacturer for the  
specs. For the TR they were 100lbs at 1.625" installed height. They  
didn't give a spec for rate so I didn't worry about it. However, the  
very cool, computerized, "spring dyno" I used, calculated the actual  
rate at about a 293 average for all 8 [sounds like a very nice number  
but actually means nothing to me!].
To measure, you need to mic. the retainer thickness [in my case . 
135"] and add that to the installed height. The total will be the  
number you're looking for and at that [installed] height you want the  
spec number given. Mine were a bit stronger than spec at 109lb avg.  
but within my comfort zone.
Measuring the [actual] installed height is the tedious part. It is  
hard to get any measuring device in where you need it, so make  
yourself a gauge. I took a piece of straight, stiff wire and cut it  
to 1.625". The idea is to measure between the spring landing at the  
head and the landing step for the outer spring on the retainer. One  
method [easiest] is to install the valve, retainer and keepers but no  
springs and pull to full extension and measure - I found it much more  
accurate and only a bit more time consuming to assemble each valve  
using only the inner spring. Now stick your gauge between the spring  
landings and use feeler gauges to figure the gap - this number will  
be the height of any shims you may [probably] need.
Remember that no two valves are likely to be the same. How much each  
valve and seat has been ground dictates the height.
This is just my way of doing it. I'm sure others have different  
[easier?] ways. Hope it's of some help.
Greg "Lunker" Hilyer
TR4 #314
Albuquerque NM



  On Jul 15, 2008, at 8:59 PM, Scott Cypher wrote:

> Can someone walk me through how to test a valve spring?  I have the
> spring tester you put in a vice as well as the kind you use with a
> torque wrench.  In either case, I need to know the compression length
> (I think) of the spring in order to determine the spring rating, and
> I don't.....
>
>
> Thanks
>
> -Scott Cypher
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