[Roadsters] 5-point harness laws

[Paul]

  Both laws, helmets and belts, were designed to help protect us, but both
are now outdated and need to be changed.  But then when it come to the Ohio
DOT, NIH applies (Not Invented here).

Paul
Ohio

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From: <d-solomon at comcast.net>
To: Graeme <graemes at internode.on.net>; 'steb' <stebharvey at ameritech.net>;
<datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 9:11 AM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 5-point harness laws


> This is reminiscent of the Motorcycle helmet issue.  DOT and SNELL are the
2 main certifiers, Snell being a "higher" standard in most testing.  It's
been shown in study after study that a SNELL approved helmet works better in
a multitude of situations that one would encounter in a motorcycle accident.
But the US DOT continues to use an antiquated (and in my opinion very
unlikely to occur) type of impact test as the standard of approved or not
approved.
> And so the SNELL helmets, which are by far superior in every way, (and the
standard for use in Europe and Asia), do not satisfy the law (or insurance
companies) in the U.S. in places where helmet use is mandatory.
>
> It's a little ridiculous that it is so difficult and expensive to get
something approved for the road.  We miss out on ALOT of great products in
the US, simply because of the litigious nature of our society.
>
> -------------- Original message --------------
> From: "Graeme" <graemes at internode.on.net>
>
> > The 5 point harness is probably MUCH better than your average 3 point
but
> > the big problem is that the manufacturer has, for whatever reason, not
had
> > them "complied" with your Transport authority.
> > While that may seem an annoyance, think about your Insurance.
> > If, forbid, you need to make a claim and your belts are not legal, what
> > then!
> > I'm with you, they are a far better restraint than anything that was
factory
> > fitted, BUT, here in Oz, the car can be defected for having better
seatbelts
> > than OEM, simply because they are not DOT approved.
> > Did someone say that the Law is an ASS?
> >
> > "5-point harness laws"
> >
> > Group,
> >
> > I purchased two sets of 5-point harnesses for my restoration project
car. As
> > I was leaving the store the guy says, "you are using these on a track
car,
> > right?". I said no, there for a street car. Turns out that harness sets
are
> > not legal for street use in Wisconsin. I installed them anyway thinking
that
> > it's better to be a breathing law breaker then a dead upstanding
citizen.
> > Are harnesses legal in other states for street use?
> >
> > Steve