[Roadsters] 5-point harness laws

[d-solomon at comcast.net]

This is reminiscent of the Motorcycle helmet issue.  DOT and SNELL are the 2 main certifiers, Snell being a "higher" standard in most testing.  It's been shown in study after study that a SNELL approved helmet works better in a multitude of situations that one would encounter in a motorcycle accident.  But the US DOT continues to use an antiquated (and in my opinion very unlikely to occur) type of impact test as the standard of approved or not approved.  
And so the SNELL helmets, which are by far superior in every way, (and the standard for use in Europe and Asia), do not satisfy the law (or insurance companies) in the U.S. in places where helmet use is mandatory.

It's a little ridiculous that it is so difficult and expensive to get something approved for the road.  We miss out on ALOT of great products in the US, simply because of the litigious nature of our society.

-------------- Original message -------------- 
From: "Graeme" <graemes at internode.on.net> 

> The 5 point harness is probably MUCH better than your average 3 point but 
> the big problem is that the manufacturer has, for whatever reason, not had 
> them "complied" with your Transport authority. 
> While that may seem an annoyance, think about your Insurance. 
> If, forbid, you need to make a claim and your belts are not legal, what 
> then! 
> I'm with you, they are a far better restraint than anything that was factory 
> fitted, BUT, here in Oz, the car can be defected for having better seatbelts 
> than OEM, simply because they are not DOT approved. 
> Did someone say that the Law is an ASS? 
> 
> "5-point harness laws" 
> 
> Group, 
> 
> I purchased two sets of 5-point harnesses for my restoration project car. As 
> I was leaving the store the guy says, "you are using these on a track car, 
> right?". I said no, there for a street car. Turns out that harness sets are 
> not legal for street use in Wisconsin. I installed them anyway thinking that 
> it's better to be a breathing law breaker then a dead upstanding citizen. 
> Are harnesses legal in other states for street use? 
> 
> Steve 
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From: "Graeme" <graemes at internode.on.net>
To: "'steb'" <stebharvey at ameritech.net>,
  <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 5-point harness laws
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 11:05:54 +0000
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