Subject: Re: [Healeys] Jet-coating, wrap or do nothing to stainless headers?

From: Oudesluys <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2015 11:28:55 +0100

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Mirror polish them and leave them alone. Wrapping may lead to burning 
the metal away, coating possibly a similar story. By polishing you 
reduce the radiation of heat so the carbs should remain relatively cool. 
Anyway Webers/DellOrto's do not have the tendency to boil fuel. Also a 
car with an electric fuel pump does not normally have problems with fuel 
vapour lock.
Kees Oudesluijs

Op 15-11-2015 om 11:11 schreef Simon Lachlan:
>
> I have stainless headers going down into a big bore(?) exhaust.
>
> Opinions seem to vary as to the merits of wrapping, coating or doing 
> nothing to them .
>
> I have Webers above them, but I suspect, in my ignorance, that these 
> are maybe less prone to evaporation issues than SUs.
>
> What does the panel think?
>
> See attached for a well researched synopsis. (Not by me!)
>
> Simon
>
>
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      heat so the carbs should remain relatively cool. Anyway
      Webers/DellOrto's do not have the tendency to boil fuel. Also a
      car with an electric fuel pump does not normally have problems
      with fuel vapour lock.<br>
      Kees Oudesluijs<br>
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      Op 15-11-2015 om 11:11 schreef Simon Lachlan:<br>
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          wrapping, coating or doing nothing to them .</p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">I have Webers above them, but I suspect, in
          my ignorance, that these are maybe less prone to evaporation
          issues than SUs.</p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">What does the panel think?</p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">See attached for a well researched
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From: Bob Spidell <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2015 14:52:12 +0000 (UTC)

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I'll add that, although I wrapped the mild steel downpipes on my BJ8 and have no problems--that I know of--I've become reluctant to recommend it. I've seen photographic evidence of pipes being severely eroded by wrapping; though it appears to be a hit-or-miss issue, and may be due, in part, to how they were wrapped and what they were wrapped with (I have to believe if it was a very common problem nobody would buy the wrap and companies would cease to sell it). I wouldn't expect ceramic coating to be a problem, at least if the pipes were coated both inside and outside (inside only might even be better). 

Here in the colonies we mostly have to use gas with 10% ethanol ('pure' gas is available at some stations, but it's relatively rare). On a warm day, if my engine is hot and shut down for less than a couple hours and restarted I'll get some stumbling until air flow has cooled everything off a bit. I can't say with absolute certainty that the gasahol is the problem, but I don't recall this ever happening before the new formulation became prevalent. I think ceramic coating the manifold might cure this problem. 

Bob 

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From: "Oudesluys" <[email-masked]> 
To: "healeys" <[email-masked]> 
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2015 2:28:55 AM 
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Jet-coating, wrap or do nothing to stainless headers? 

Mirror polish them and leave them alone. Wrapping may lead to burning the metal away, coating possibly a similar story. By polishing you reduce the radiation of heat so the carbs should remain relatively cool. Anyway Webers/DellOrto's do not have the tendency to boil fuel. Also a car with an electric fuel pump does not normally have problems with fuel vapour lock. 
Kees Oudesluijs 

Opinions seem to vary as to the merits of wrapping, coating or doing nothing to them . 

I have Webers above them, but I suspect, in my ignorance, that these are maybe less prone to evaporation issues than SUs. 

Simon 

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<html><body><div style=3D"font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #0000=
00"><div aria-label=3D"Compose body">I'll add that, although I wrapped the =
mild steel downpipes on my BJ8 and have no problems--that I know of--I've b=
ecome reluctant to recommend it.&nbsp; I've seen photographic evidence of p=
ipes being severely eroded by wrapping; though it appears to be a hit-or-mi=
ss issue, and may be due, in part, to how they were wrapped and what they w=
ere wrapped with (I have to believe if it was a very common problem nobody =
would buy the wrap and companies would cease to sell it).&nbsp; I wouldn't =
expect ceramic coating to be a problem, at least if the pipes were coated b=
oth inside and outside (inside only might even be better).<br></div><div ar=
ia-label=3D"Compose body"><br></div><div aria-label=3D"Compose body">Here i=
n the colonies we mostly have to use gas with 10% ethanol ('pure' gas is av=
ailable at some stations, but it's relatively rare).&nbsp; On a warm day, i=
f my engine is hot and shut down for less than a couple hours and restarted=
 I'll get some stumbling until air flow has cooled everything off a bit.&nb=
sp; I can't say with absolute certainty that the gasahol is the problem, bu=
t I don't recall this ever happening before the new formulation became prev=
alent.&nbsp; I think ceramic coating the manifold might cure this problem.<=
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ose body">Bob<br></div><div><br></div><hr id=3D"zwchr"><div style=3D"color:=
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: Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><b>From: </b>"Oudesluys" &l=
t;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>To: </b>"healeys" &lt;[email-masked].=
net&gt;<br><b>Sent: </b>Sunday, November 15, 2015 2:28:55 AM<br><b>Subject:=
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><div><br></div><div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">Mirror polish them and leave=
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a similar story. By polishing you reduce the radiation of heat so the carbs=
 should remain relatively cool. Anyway Webers/DellOrto's do not have the te=
ndency to boil fuel. Also a car with an electric fuel pump does not normall=
y have problems with fuel vapour lock.<br> Kees Oudesluijs<br> <br> <br> <b=
r> <br> Op 15-11-2015 om 11:11 schreef Simon Lachlan:<br></div><blockquote =
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p class=3D"MsoNormal">I have Webers above them, but I suspect, in my ignora=
nce, that these are maybe less prone to evaporation issues than SUs.</p><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal">What does the panel think?</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Se=
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From: Michael Oritt <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2015 10:11:01 -0500

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I had the DW header pipes on my 100 wrapped with heat tape for about two
years, then took it off and went to a reflective shield.  I noticed no
deterioration of the pipes when I changed over to the shield and that was
ten years ago.

I don't believe that polishing is not the way to go as sometimes the
process brings impurities to the surface and causes a lot of corrosion,
esp. in SS.  I have Jet-Hot coating or the like on the headers of all of my
race cars and everything is intact and nice and shiny!

Best--Michael Oritt

On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 9:52 AM, Bob Spidell <[email-masked]> wrote:

> I'll add that, although I wrapped the mild steel downpipes on my BJ8 and
> have no problems--that I know of--I've become reluctant to recommend it.
> I've seen photographic evidence of pipes being severely eroded by wrapping;
> though it appears to be a hit-or-miss issue, and may be due, in part, to
> how they were wrapped and what they were wrapped with (I have to believe if
> it was a very common problem nobody would buy the wrap and companies would
> cease to sell it).  I wouldn't expect ceramic coating to be a problem, at
> least if the pipes were coated both inside and outside (inside only might
> even be better).
>
> Here in the colonies we mostly have to use gas with 10% ethanol ('pure'
> gas is available at some stations, but it's relatively rare).  On a warm
> day, if my engine is hot and shut down for less than a couple hours and
> restarted I'll get some stumbling until air flow has cooled everything off
> a bit.  I can't say with absolute certainty that the gasahol is the
> problem, but I don't recall this ever happening before the new formulation
> became prevalent.  I think ceramic coating the manifold might cure this
> problem.
>
> Bob
>
> ------------------------------
> *From: *"Oudesluys" <[email-masked]>
> *To: *"healeys" <[email-masked]>
> *Sent: *Sunday, November 15, 2015 2:28:55 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [Healeys] Jet-coating, wrap or do nothing to stainless
> headers?
>
> Mirror polish them and leave them alone. Wrapping may lead to burning the
> metal away, coating possibly a similar story. By polishing you reduce the
> radiation of heat so the carbs should remain relatively cool. Anyway
> Webers/DellOrto's do not have the tendency to boil fuel. Also a car with an
> electric fuel pump does not normally have problems with fuel vapour lock.
> Kees Oudesluijs
>
>
>
>
> I have Webers above them, but I suspect, in my ignorance, that these are
> maybe less prone to evaporation issues than SUs.
>
> Unsubscribe/Manage:
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/[email-masked]
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)=
">I had the DW header pipes on my 100 wrapped with heat tape for about two =
years, then took it off and went to a reflective shield.=C2=A0 I noticed no=
 deterioration of the pipes when I changed over to the shield and that was =
ten years ago.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,2=
55)"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)">=
I don&#39;t believe that polishing is not the way to go as sometimes the pr=
ocess brings impurities to the surface and causes a lot of corrosion, esp. =
in SS.=C2=A0 I have Jet-Hot coating or the like on the headers of all of my=
 race cars and everything is intact and nice and shiny! =C2=A0</div><div cl=
ass=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)"><br></div><div class=
=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)">Best--Michael Oritt</div>=
</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Nov=
 15, 2015 at 9:52 AM, Bob Spidell <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:b=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> =
wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bord=
er-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style=3D"font-family:Ari=
al;font-size:12pt;color:#000000"><div>I&#39;ll add that, although I wrapped=
 the mild steel downpipes on my BJ8 and have no problems--that I know of--I=
&#39;ve become reluctant to recommend it.=C2=A0 I&#39;ve seen photographic =
evidence of pipes being severely eroded by wrapping; though it appears to b=
e a hit-or-miss issue, and may be due, in part, to how they were wrapped an=
d what they were wrapped with (I have to believe if it was a very common pr=
oblem nobody would buy the wrap and companies would cease to sell it).=C2=
=A0 I wouldn&#39;t expect ceramic coating to be a problem, at least if the =
pipes were coated both inside and outside (inside only might even be better=
).<br></div><div><br></div><div>Here in the colonies we mostly have to use =
gas with 10% ethanol (&#39;pure&#39; gas is available at some stations, but=
 it&#39;s relatively rare).=C2=A0 On a warm day, if my engine is hot and sh=
ut down for less than a couple hours and restarted I&#39;ll get some stumbl=
ing until air flow has cooled everything off a bit.=C2=A0 I can&#39;t say w=
ith absolute certainty that the gasahol is the problem, but I don&#39;t rec=
all this ever happening before the new formulation became prevalent.=C2=A0 =
I think ceramic coating the manifold might cure this problem.<br></div><div=
><br></div><div>Bob<br></div><div><br></div><hr><div style=3D"color:#000;fo=
nt-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-family:Helveti=
ca,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><b>From: </b>&quot;Oudesluys&quot; &lt;=
<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">coudesluijs@chel=
lo.nl</a>&gt;<br><b>To: </b>&quot;healeys&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:heale=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><b>S=
ent: </b>Sunday, November 15, 2015 2:28:55 AM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Heale=
ys] Jet-coating, wrap or do nothing to stainless headers?<span class=3D""><=
br><div><br></div><div>Mirror polish them and leave them alone. Wrapping ma=
y lead to burning the metal away, coating possibly a similar story. By poli=
shing you reduce the radiation of heat so the carbs should remain relativel=
y cool. Anyway Webers/DellOrto&#39;s do not have the tendency to boil fuel.=
 Also a car with an electric fuel pump does not normally have problems with=
 fuel vapour lock.<br> Kees Oudesluijs<br> <br> <br> <br> <br> Op 15-11-201=
5 om 11:11 schreef Simon Lachlan:<br></div></span><blockquote><span class=
=3D""><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I have stainless headers going down into =
a big bore(?) exhaust.</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Opinions seem to vary as t=
o the merits of wrapping, coating or doing nothing to them .</p><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal">I have Webers above them, but I suspect, in my ignorance, that =
these are maybe less prone to evaporation issues than SUs.</p><p class=3D"M=
soNormal">What does the panel think?</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">See attached=
 for a well researched synopsis. (Not by me!)</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Sim=
on</p></div><br><fieldset></fieldset></span>\<br></blockquote><div><br></di=
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Michael:  can you share with us who you use for the Jet-Hot coating?

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Thanks,

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Al Fuller

al at bighealey dot org

'65 BJ-8

'85 Rx-7

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From: Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of =
Michael Oritt
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2015 10:11 AM
To: Bob Spidell <[email-masked]>
Cc: healeys <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Jet-coating, wrap or do nothing to stainless =
headers?

=20

I had the DW header pipes on my 100 wrapped with heat tape for about two =
years, then took it off and went to a reflective shield.  I noticed no =
deterioration of the pipes when I changed over to the shield and that =
was ten years ago.

=20

I don't believe that polishing is not the way to go as sometimes the =
process brings impurities to the surface and causes a lot of corrosion, =
esp. in SS.  I have Jet-Hot coating or the like on the headers of all of =
my race cars and everything is intact and nice and shiny! =20

=20

Best--Michael Oritt

=20

On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 9:52 AM, Bob Spidell <[email-masked] =

I'll add that, although I wrapped the mild steel downpipes on my BJ8 and =
have no problems--that I know of--I've become reluctant to recommend it. =
 I've seen photographic evidence of pipes being severely eroded by =
wrapping; though it appears to be a hit-or-miss issue, and may be due, =
in part, to how they were wrapped and what they were wrapped with (I =
have to believe if it was a very common problem nobody would buy the =
wrap and companies would cease to sell it).  I wouldn't expect ceramic =
coating to be a problem, at least if the pipes were coated both inside =
and outside (inside only might even be better).

=20

Here in the colonies we mostly have to use gas with 10% ethanol ('pure' =
gas is available at some stations, but it's relatively rare).  On a warm =
day, if my engine is hot and shut down for less than a couple hours and =
restarted I'll get some stumbling until air flow has cooled everything =
off a bit.  I can't say with absolute certainty that the gasahol is the =
problem, but I don't recall this ever happening before the new =
formulation became prevalent.  I think ceramic coating the manifold =
might cure this problem.

=20

Bob

=20

  _____ =20

Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2015 2:28:55 AM
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Jet-coating, wrap or do nothing to stainless =
headers?

=20

Mirror polish them and leave them alone. Wrapping may lead to burning =
the metal away, coating possibly a similar story. By polishing you =
reduce the radiation of heat so the carbs should remain relatively cool. =
Anyway Webers/DellOrto's do not have the tendency to boil fuel. Also a =
car with an electric fuel pump does not normally have problems with fuel =
vapour lock.
Kees Oudesluijs

Opinions seem to vary as to the merits of wrapping, coating or doing =
nothing to them .

I have Webers above them, but I suspect, in my ignorance, that these are =
maybe less prone to evaporation issues than SUs.

Simon

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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
>Michael:=C2=A0 can you share with us who you use for the Jet-Hot =
coating?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
>Al Fuller</span><span style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
>al at bighealey dot org</span><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
>'65 BJ-8</span><span style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
>'85 Rx-7</span><span style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span><=
/b><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> =
Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>Michael Oritt<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, November 15, 2015 10:11 =
AM<br><b>To:</b> Bob Spidell &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> =
healeys &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] =
Jet-coating, wrap or do nothing to stainless =
headers?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#3333FF'>I had the DW header =
pipes on my 100 wrapped with heat tape for about two years, then took it =
off and went to a reflective shield.&nbsp; I noticed no deterioration of =
the pipes when I changed over to the shield and that was ten years =
ago.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#3333FF'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#3333FF'>I don't believe that =
polishing is not the way to go as sometimes the process brings =
impurities to the surface and causes a lot of corrosion, esp. in =
SS.&nbsp; I have Jet-Hot coating or the like on the headers of all of my =
race cars and everything is intact and nice and shiny! =
&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#3333FF'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#3333FF'>Best--Michael =
Oritt<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On Sun, =
Nov 15, 2015 at 9:52 AM, Bob Spidell &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid =
#CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>I'll add that, =
although I wrapped the mild steel downpipes on my BJ8 and have no =
problems--that I know of--I've become reluctant to recommend it.&nbsp; =
I've seen photographic evidence of pipes being severely eroded by =
wrapping; though it appears to be a hit-or-miss issue, and may be due, =
in part, to how they were wrapped and what they were wrapped with (I =
have to believe if it was a very common problem nobody would buy the =
wrap and companies would cease to sell it).&nbsp; I wouldn't expect =
ceramic coating to be a problem, at least if the pipes were coated both =
inside and outside (inside only might even be =
better).<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></s=
pan></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Here in the =
colonies we mostly have to use gas with 10% ethanol ('pure' gas is =
available at some stations, but it's relatively rare).&nbsp; On a warm =
day, if my engine is hot and shut down for less than a couple hours and =
restarted I'll get some stumbling until air flow has cooled everything =
off a bit.&nbsp; I can't say with absolute certainty that the gasahol is =
the problem, but I don't recall this ever happening before the new =
formulation became prevalent.&nbsp; I think ceramic coating the manifold =
might cure this problem.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></s=
pan></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Bob<o:p></o:p></span=
></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></s=
pan></p></div><div class=3DMsoNormal align=3Dcenter =
style=3D'text-align:center'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><hr size=3D2 =
width=3D"100%" align=3Dcenter></span></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>From: =
</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>&quot;Oudesluys&=
quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><b>To: =
</b>&quot;healeys&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><b>Sent: </b>Sunday, =
November 15, 2015 2:28:55 AM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Healeys] =
Jet-coating, wrap or do nothing to stainless =
headers?<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p=
></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>Mirror polish =
them and leave them alone. Wrapping may lead to burning the metal away, =
coating possibly a similar story. By polishing you reduce the radiation =
of heat so the carbs should remain relatively cool. Anyway =
Webers/DellOrto's do not have the tendency to boil fuel. Also a car with =
an electric fuel pump does not normally have problems with fuel vapour =
lock.<br>Kees Oudesluijs<br><br><br><br><br>Op 15-11-2015 om 11:11 =
schreef Simon Lachlan:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'color:black'>I have stainless headers going down into a big =
bore(?) exhaust.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'color:black'>Opinions seem to vary as to the merits of =
wrapping, coating or doing nothing to them .<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'color:black'>I have Webers above them, but I suspect, in my =
ignorance, that these are maybe less prone to evaporation issues than =
SUs.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'color:black'>What does the panel think?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'color:black'>See attached for a well researched synopsis. (Not =
by me!)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'color:black'>Simon<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><br>\<o:p></o:p>=
</span></p></blockquote><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p=
></span></p></div></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></s=
pan></p></div></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
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Al--

Jet-Hot's contact info is:

http://www.jet-hot.com/contact/

Best--Michael Oritt

On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 2:11 PM, Al Fuller <[email-masked]> wrote:

> *From:* Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] *On Behalf Of *Michael
> Oritt
> *Sent:* Sunday, November 15, 2015 10:11 AM
> *To:* Bob Spidell <[email-masked]>
> *Cc:* healeys <[email-masked]>
>
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Jet-coating, wrap or do nothing to stainless
> headers?
>
>
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)=
">Al--</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)"><br=
></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)">Jet-Hot&=
#39;s contact info is:</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb=
(51,51,255)"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D""><font color=
=3D"#3333ff"><a href=3D"http://www.jet-hot.com/contact/">http://www.jet-hot=
.com/contact/</a></font><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D""><=
font color=3D"#3333ff"><br></font></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=
=3D""><font color=3D"#3333ff">Best--Michael Oritt</font></div></div><div cl=
ass=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at =
2:11 PM, Al Fuller <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote c=
lass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;=
padding-left:1ex"><div lang=3D"EN-US" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple"><div><=
p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Michael:=C2=A0 can you share with us w=
ho you use for the Jet-Hot coating?<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,san=
s-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal=
"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-seri=
f;color:#1f497d">Thanks,<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><sp=
an style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;col=
or:#1f497d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span sty=
le=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f=
497d">Al Fuller</span><span style=3D"color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d">al at bighealey dot org</span><span s=
tyle=3D"color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span =
style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:=
#1f497d">&#39;65 BJ-8</span><span style=3D"color:black"><u></u><u></u></spa=
n></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&q=
uot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d">&#39;85 Rx-7</span><span style=
=3D"color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span styl=
e=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f4=
97d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=
=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">From:</spa=
n></b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-=
serif"> Healeys [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" t=
arget=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Mi=
chael Oritt<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, November 15, 2015 10:11 AM<br><b>To:</b=
> Bob Spidell &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank"=
>[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:h=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</sp=
an></p><div><div class=3D"h5"><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Jet-coating=
, wrap or do nothing to stainless headers?<u></u><u></u></div></div><p></p>=
<div><div class=3D"h5"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div>=
<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#3333ff">I had the DW head=
er pipes on my 100 wrapped with heat tape for about two years, then took it=
 off and went to a reflective shield.=C2=A0 I noticed no deterioration of t=
he pipes when I changed over to the shield and that was ten years ago.<u></=
u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:=
#3333ff"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><=
span style=3D"color:#3333ff">I don&#39;t believe that polishing is not the =
way to go as sometimes the process brings impurities to the surface and cau=
ses a lot of corrosion, esp. in SS.=C2=A0 I have Jet-Hot coating or the lik=
e on the headers of all of my race cars and everything is intact and nice a=
nd shiny! =C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
<span style=3D"color:#3333ff"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#3333ff">Best--Michael Oritt<u></u=
><u></u></span></p></div></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u>=
</u></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 9:52 AM, Bob Sp=
idell &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">bspidel=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></p><blockquote style=3D"border:n=
one;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4=
.8pt;margin-right:0in"><div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D=
"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">I&#39;ll add that, a=
lthough I wrapped the mild steel downpipes on my BJ8 and have no problems--=
that I know of--I&#39;ve become reluctant to recommend it.=C2=A0 I&#39;ve s=
een photographic evidence of pipes being severely eroded by wrapping; thoug=
h it appears to be a hit-or-miss issue, and may be due, in part, to how the=
y were wrapped and what they were wrapped with (I have to believe if it was=
 a very common problem nobody would buy the wrap and companies would cease =
to sell it).=C2=A0 I wouldn&#39;t expect ceramic coating to be a problem, a=
t least if the pipes were coated both inside and outside (inside only might=
 even be better).<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><u></=
u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"=
font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Here in the colonies =
we mostly have to use gas with 10% ethanol (&#39;pure&#39; gas is available=
 at some stations, but it&#39;s relatively rare).=C2=A0 On a warm day, if m=
y engine is hot and shut down for less than a couple hours and restarted I&=
#39;ll get some stumbling until air flow has cooled everything off a bit.=
=C2=A0 I can&#39;t say with absolute certainty that the gasahol is the prob=
lem, but I don&#39;t recall this ever happening before the new formulation =
became prevalent.=C2=A0 I think ceramic coating the manifold might cure thi=
s problem.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span =
style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><u></u>=C2=
=A0<u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-=
family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Bob<u></u><u></u></span></=
p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&=
quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></div><div cla=
ss=3D"MsoNormal" align=3D"center" style=3D"text-align:center"><span style=
=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><hr size=3D"2" wi=
dth=3D"100%" align=3D"center"></span></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><=
span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Fro=
m: </span></b><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;c=
olor:black">&quot;Oudesluys&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:coudesluijs@chello.=
nl" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><b>To: </b>&quot;hea=
leys&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><b>Sent: </b>Sunday, November 15, 2015 2:=
28:55 AM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Healeys] Jet-coating, wrap or do nothing t=
o stainless headers?<u></u><u></u></span></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><s=
pan style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><u><=
/u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D=
"font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Mirror polish th=
em and leave them alone. Wrapping may lead to burning the metal away, coati=
ng possibly a similar story. By polishing you reduce the radiation of heat =
so the carbs should remain relatively cool. Anyway Webers/DellOrto&#39;s do=
 not have the tendency to boil fuel. Also a car with an electric fuel pump =
does not normally have problems with fuel vapour lock.<br>Kees Oudesluijs<b=
r><br><br><br><br>Op 15-11-2015 om 11:11 schreef Simon Lachlan:<u></u><u></=
u></span></p></div><blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0p=
t"><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black">I have stainless=
 headers going down into a big bore(?) exhaust.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black">Opinions seem to vary as to=
 the merits of wrapping, coating or doing nothing to them .<u></u><u></u></=
span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black">I have Webers a=
bove them, but I suspect, in my ignorance, that these are maybe less prone =
to evaporation issues than SUs.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNorm=
al"><span style=3D"color:black">What does the panel think?<u></u><u></u></s=
pan></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black">See attached for=
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I did the stock iron slugs (manifolds ;-)  with Jethot and love it.  =
Hint they give a certificate for money off after the first job done.  So =
if you like it on your headers you could get money off the intake =
manifold.  I went with standard silver.  They can do it in many colors.  =
 Many pro drag racers do this inside and outside headers for flow and =
durability.  Looks like chrome / kinda.=20

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From: Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of =
Michael Oritt
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 11:32 AM
To: Al Fuller
Cc: healeys
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Jet-coating, wrap or do nothing to stainless =
headers?

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al at bighealey dot org

'65 BJ-8

'85 Rx-7

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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>I did the stock iron slugs (manifolds ;-)=C2=A0 with Jethot and love =
it.=C2=A0 Hint they give a certificate for money off after the first job =
done.=C2=A0 So if you like it on your headers you could get money off =
the intake manifold.=C2=A0 I went with standard silver.=C2=A0 They can =
do it in many colors.=C2=A0=C2=A0 Many pro drag racers do this inside =
and outside headers for flow and durability.=C2=A0 Looks like chrome / =
kinda. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>Michael Oritt<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 17, 2015 11:32 =
AM<br><b>To:</b> Al Fuller<br><b>Cc:</b> healeys<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: =
[Healeys] Jet-coating, wrap or do nothing to stainless =
headers?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#3333FF'>Al--<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#3333FF'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#3333FF'>Jet-Hot's contact info =
is:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#3333FF'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#3333FF'><a =
href=3D"http://www.jet-hot.com/contact/">http://www.jet-hot.com/contact/<=
/a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#3333FF'>Best--Michael =
Oritt</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On Tue, =
Nov 17, 2015 at 2:11 PM, Al Fuller &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Michael:&nbsp; can you share with us who you use for the Jet-Hot =
coating?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Thanks,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Al Fuller</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>al at bighealey dot org</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>'65 BJ-8</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>'85 Rx-7</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>From:</span=
></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Healeys =
[mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>Michael Oritt<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, November 15, 2015 10:11 =
AM<br><b>To:</b> Bob Spidell &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> healeys =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span><o:p></o:p></p><di=
v><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] =
Jet-coating, wrap or do nothing to stainless =
headers?<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'color:#3333FF'>I had the DW header pipes on my 100 wrapped with =
heat tape for about two years, then took it off and went to a reflective =
shield.&nbsp; I noticed no deterioration of the pipes when I changed =
over to the shield and that was ten years =
ago.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'color:#3333FF'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'color:#3333FF'>I don't believe that polishing is not the way to =
go as sometimes the process brings impurities to the surface and causes =
a lot of corrosion, esp. in SS.&nbsp; I have Jet-Hot coating or the like =
on the headers of all of my race cars and everything is intact and nice =
and shiny! &nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'color:#3333FF'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'color:#3333FF'>Best--Michael =
Oritt</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>On Sun, Nov =
15, 2015 at 9:52 AM, Bob Spidell &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid =
#CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5=
.0pt'><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>I'll add that, =
although I wrapped the mild steel downpipes on my BJ8 and have no =
problems--that I know of--I've become reluctant to recommend it.&nbsp; =
I've seen photographic evidence of pipes being severely eroded by =
wrapping; though it appears to be a hit-or-miss issue, and may be due, =
in part, to how they were wrapped and what they were wrapped with (I =
have to believe if it was a very common problem nobody would buy the =
wrap and companies would cease to sell it).&nbsp; I wouldn't expect =
ceramic coating to be a problem, at least if the pipes were coated both =
inside and outside (inside only might even be =
better).</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>&nbsp;</span><o:p>=
</o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Here in the =
colonies we mostly have to use gas with 10% ethanol ('pure' gas is =
available at some stations, but it's relatively rare).&nbsp; On a warm =
day, if my engine is hot and shut down for less than a couple hours and =
restarted I'll get some stumbling until air flow has cooled everything =
off a bit.&nbsp; I can't say with absolute certainty that the gasahol is =
the problem, but I don't recall this ever happening before the new =
formulation became prevalent.&nbsp; I think ceramic coating the manifold =
might cure this problem.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>&nbsp;</span><o:p>=
</o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Bob</span><o:p></o=
:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>&nbsp;</span><o:p>=
</o:p></p></div><div class=3DMsoNormal align=3Dcenter =
style=3D'text-align:center'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><hr size=3D2 =
width=3D"100%" align=3Dcenter></span></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>From: =
</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>&quot;Oudesluy=
s&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><b>To: =
</b>&quot;healeys&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><b>Sent: </b>Sunday, =
November 15, 2015 2:28:55 AM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Healeys] =
Jet-coating, wrap or do nothing to stainless =
headers?</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>&nbsp;</span><=
o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Mirror polish =
them and leave them alone. Wrapping may lead to burning the metal away, =
coating possibly a similar story. By polishing you reduce the radiation =
of heat so the carbs should remain relatively cool. Anyway =
Webers/DellOrto's do not have the tendency to boil fuel. Also a car with =
an electric fuel pump does not normally have problems with fuel vapour =
lock.<br>Kees Oudesluijs<br><br><br><br><br>Op 15-11-2015 om 11:11 =
schreef Simon Lachlan:</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'color:black'>I have stainless headers going down into a big =
bore(?) exhaust.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'color:black'>Opinions seem to vary as to the merits of =
wrapping, coating or doing nothing to them .</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'color:black'>I have Webers above them, but I suspect, in my =
ignorance, that these are maybe less prone to evaporation issues than =
SUs.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'color:black'>What does the panel think?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'color:black'>See attached for a well researched synopsis. (Not =
by me!)</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'color:black'>Simon</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
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style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><br>\</span><o=
:p></o:p></p></blockquote><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
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