Subject: Re: [Healeys] Core plug extraction

From: "Bluehealey" <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2015 17:03:33 -0000

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Trying to open a lip as you describe sounds tricky with the potential for
gouging the wall of the plug opening.  I just drive a spike through the
centre and lever out the plug. They are quite soft, compared to cast iron,
and it has never presented a problem.

What tricks do others have?

Alan Bromfield

Modified BN4

Work in Progress AN5

From: Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Simon
Lachlan
Sent: 12 November 2015 15:15
To: 'healeys'
Subject: [Healeys] Core plug extraction

I noted the other day what a ghastly job that is. Always possible and nearly
always bl**dy awkward.

I've seen clips of guys - always with the engine in pieces on the bench -
who just bang one lip inwards until the plug swivels in the hole. Then they
just grab it with a mole(?!) wrench or similar and hoik it out. So easy.

I love my car dearly but I always expect the most cussed things of it and
I'm seldom disappointed. Surely if I were to bang in those that I could
reach, they'd just vanish inside, never to be seen again???

Simon

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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Trying to open a lip as you describe sounds =
tricky with the potential for gouging the wall of the plug =
opening.&nbsp; I just drive a spike through the centre and lever out the =
plug. They are quite soft, compared to cast iron, and it has never =
presented a problem.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>What tricks do others =
have?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Alan =
Bromfield<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Modified BN4<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Work in Progress =
AN5<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><img width=3D192 height=3D87 =
id=3D"Picture_x0020_1" =
src=3D"cid:[email-masked]"><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p=
 class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div =
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0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Healeys =
[mailto:[email-masked]] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Simon =
Lachlan<br><b>Sent:</b> 12 November 2015 15:15<br><b>To:</b> =
'healeys'<br><b>Subject:</b> [Healeys] Core plug =
extraction<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>I noted the =
other day what a ghastly job that is. Always possible and nearly always =
bl**dy awkward.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>I&#8217;ve seen clips =
of guys &#8211; always with the engine in pieces on the bench &#8211; =
who just bang one lip inwards until the plug swivels in the hole. Then =
they just grab it with a mole(?!) wrench or similar and hoik it out. So =
easy.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>I love my car dearly but I =
always expect the most cussed things of it and I&#8217;m seldom =
disappointed. Surely if I were to bang in those that I could reach, =
they&#8217;d just vanish inside, never to be seen =
again???<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Simon<o:p></o:p></p></div></body></html>
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From: "Simon Lachlan" <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2015 17:16:04 -0000

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Thanks for this, but I=92m not talking about opening a lip, just banging =
one
lip inwards ie with, say,m a round drift of +/- 4mm. Banging it on the =
lip,
at 90=B0 to the plug=92s flat surface, trying to push that side inwards =
so the
other side swivels outwards into the jaws of your grips.=20

Yes, opening a lip sounds like a recipe for disaster.

Driving in a spike and levering outwards works but can be a real pain if =
the
thing=92s been in there for 50 years and/or depending on what sort of =
vile
gloop the PO used as a seal.

Simon

=20

From: Bluehealey [mailto:[email-masked]]=20
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 17:04
To: 'Simon Lachlan'; 'healeys'
Subject: RE: [Healeys] Core plug extraction

=20

Trying to open a lip as you describe sounds tricky with the potential =
for
gouging the wall of the plug opening.  I just drive a spike through the
centre and lever out the plug. They are quite soft, compared to cast =
iron,
and it has never presented a problem.

=20

=20

Alan Bromfield

Modified BN4

Work in Progress AN5

=20

=20

I noted the other day what a ghastly job that is. Always possible and =
nearly
always bl**dy awkward.

I=92ve seen clips of guys =96 always with the engine in pieces on the =
bench =96
who just bang one lip inwards until the plug swivels in the hole. Then =
they
just grab it with a mole(?!) wrench or similar and hoik it out. So easy.

I love my car dearly but I always expect the most cussed things of it =
and
I=92m seldom disappointed. Surely if I were to bang in those that I =
could
reach, they=92d just vanish inside, never to be seen again???

Simon

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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Thanks for this, but I&#8217;m not talking about =
opening a lip, just banging one lip inwards ie with, say,m a round drift =
of +/- 4mm. Banging it on the lip, at 90=B0 to the plug&#8217;s flat =
surface, trying to push that side inwards so the other side swivels =
outwards into the jaws of your grips. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Yes, opening a lip =
sounds like a recipe for disaster.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Driving in a spike and =
levering outwards works but can be a real pain if the thing&#8217;s been =
in there for 50 years and/or depending on what sort of vile gloop the PO =
used as a seal.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Simon<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Bluehealey =
[mailto:[email-masked]] <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 12, =
2015 17:04<br><b>To:</b> 'Simon Lachlan'; 'healeys'<br><b>Subject:</b> =
RE: [Healeys] Core plug extraction<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Trying to open a lip as you describe sounds =
tricky with the potential for gouging the wall of the plug =
opening.&nbsp; I just drive a spike through the centre and lever out the =
plug. They are quite soft, compared to cast iron, and it has never =
presented a problem.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>What tricks do others =
have?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Alan =
Bromfield<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Modified BN4<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Work in Progress =
AN5<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><img width=3D192 height=3D87 =
id=3D"Picture_x0020_1" =
src=3D"cid:[email-masked]"><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p=
 class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Healeys =
[<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">mailto:healeys-bounces@aut=
ox.team.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Simon Lachlan<br><b>Sent:</b> 12 =
November 2015 15:15<br><b>To:</b> 'healeys'<br><b>Subject:</b> [Healeys] =
Core plug extraction<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>I noted the =
other day what a ghastly job that is. Always possible and nearly always =
bl**dy awkward.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>I&#8217;ve seen clips =
of guys &#8211; always with the engine in pieces on the bench &#8211; =
who just bang one lip inwards until the plug swivels in the hole. Then =
they just grab it with a mole(?!) wrench or similar and hoik it out. So =
easy.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>I love my car dearly but I =
always expect the most cussed things of it and I&#8217;m seldom =
disappointed. Surely if I were to bang in those that I could reach, =
they&#8217;d just vanish inside, never to be seen =
again???<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Simon<o:p></o:p></p></div></body></html>
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From: I Erbs <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2015 09:32:29 -0800

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I use a drift to turn the plug as described then grad it and pull it out. I
have also just punched a hole in really rusty ones when step one doe snot
work or their is not enough solid material to work with. Make sure you use
a socket to hit the outside rim and not the middle of the new plug when
installing it. As stated, they are soft.

Ira Erbs
Portland, OR
   _______                                  _______
     (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)
         (_________________________)

On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 9:03 AM, Bluehealey <[email-masked]> wrote:

> centre and lever out the plug. They are quite soft, compared to cast iron=
,
> *From:* Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] *On Behalf Of *Si=
mon
> Lachlan
> *Sent:* 12 November 2015 15:15
> *To:* 'healeys'
> *Subject:* [Healeys] Core plug extraction
>
>
>
> I noted the other day what a ghastly job that is. Always possible and
> nearly always bl**dy awkward.
>
> I=E2=80=99ve seen clips of guys =E2=80=93 always with the engine in piece=
s on the bench =E2=80=93
> who just bang one lip inwards until the plug swivels in the hole. Then th=
ey
> I=E2=80=99m seldom disappointed. Surely if I were to bang in those that I=
 could
> reach, they=E2=80=99d just vanish inside, never to be seen again???
>
> Simon
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:large">I u=
se a drift to turn the plug as described then grad it and pull it out. I ha=
ve also just punched a hole in really rusty ones when step one doe snot wor=
k or their is not enough solid material to work with. Make sure you use a s=
ocket to hit the outside rim and not the middle of the new plug when instal=
ling it. As stated, they are soft.</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><b=
r clear=3D"all"><div><div class=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><=
div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Ira Erbs<br>Portland, OR<br>=C2=A0=C2=A0 _______=C2=A0=
 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 _______<br>=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 (____=
__ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)<br>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 (______=
___________________)<br></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 9:03 AM, Bluehealey =
<span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_bl=
ank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gma=
il_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-lef=
t:1ex"><div lang=3D"EN-GB" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple"><div><p class=3D"=
MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1f497d">Trying to open a lip as you descri=
be sounds tricky with the potential for gouging the wall of the plug openin=
g.=C2=A0 I just drive a spike through the centre and lever out the plug. Th=
ey are quite soft, compared to cast iron, and it has never presented a prob=
lem.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1=
f497d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D=
"color:#1f497d">What tricks do others have?<u></u><u></u></span></p><p clas=
s=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1f497d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></=
p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1f497d">Alan Bromfield<=
u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1f497d=
">Modified BN4<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"color:#1f497d">Work in Progress AN5<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1f497d"><img width=3D"192" height=3D"87" =
src=3D"cid:[email-masked]"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><=
p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1f497d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></s=
pan></p><div><div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;paddi=
ng:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=
=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>From:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family=
:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Healeys [mailto:<a href=3D"mai=
lto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">healeys-bounces@autox=
.team.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Simon Lachlan<br><b>Sent:</b> 12 Novembe=
r 2015 15:15<br><b>To:</b> &#39;healeys&#39;<br><b>Subject:</b> [Healeys] C=
ore plug extraction<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><div><div class=3D"=
h5"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I=
 noted the other day what a ghastly job that is. Always possible and nearly=
 always bl**dy awkward.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I=E2=80=99v=
e seen clips of guys =E2=80=93 always with the engine in pieces on the benc=
h =E2=80=93 who just bang one lip inwards until the plug swivels in the hol=
e. Then they just grab it with a mole(?!) wrench or similar and hoik it out=
. So easy.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I love my car dearly but=
 I always expect the most cussed things of it and I=E2=80=99m seldom disapp=
ointed. Surely if I were to bang in those that I could reach, they=E2=80=99=
d just vanish inside, never to be seen again???<u></u><u></u></p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal">Simon<u></u><u></u></p></div></div></div></div><br>_________=
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