Subject: [Healeys] BN1 Front wirewheel hub studs

From: STEPHEN CUSS <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2015 14:16:58 +0000 (UTC)

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Hi,
Hoping someone can help me, I have an original BN1 100/4 built in 1954 some of the front wheel studs which hold the brake drum on look a little worn, so I was looking to buy a die and re-cut the threads, does anybody know what size and Teeth per Inch (TPI) these studs are?
Thanksin advance for your help with this matter
Stephen
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From: Michael Salter <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2015 09:27:39 -0500

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Hi Shephen,
The brake drum studs are 7/16 x 18TPI threads. The thread type is British
Standard Fine (B.S.F)

Michael Salter
BN1 #174

On Sun, Nov 1, 2015 at 9:16 AM, STEPHEN CUSS <[email-masked]>
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Hoping someone can help me, I have an original BN1 100/4 built in 1954
> some of the front wheel studs which hold the brake drum on look a little
> worn, so I was looking to buy a die and re-cut the threads, does anybody
> know what size and Teeth per Inch (TPI) these studs are?
>
> Thanks
> in advance for your help with this matter
>
> Stephen
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sa=
ns ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">Hi Shephen,<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_=
default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">The=
 brake drum studs are 7/16 x 18TPI threads. The thread type is British Stan=
dard Fine (B.S.F)<br><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-f=
amily:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">Michael Salter <br></div><d=
iv class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;fo=
nt-size:small">BN1 #174<br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div =
class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Nov 1, 2015 at 9:16 AM, STEPHEN CUSS <span di=
r=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_b=
lank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote cl=
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amily:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,Sans-Serif=
;font-size:12px"><div>Hi,</div><div><br></div><div>Hoping someone can help =
me, I have an original BN1 100/4 built in 1954 some of the front wheel stud=
s which hold the brake drum on look a little worn, so I was looking to buy =
a die and re-cut the threads, does anybody know what size and Teeth per Inc=
h (TPI) these studs are?</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks</div><div dir=3D"l=
tr">in advance for your help with this matter</div><span class=3D"HOEnZb"><=
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From: Curtis Arndt <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2015 06:40:45 -0800

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Stephen,

Off the top of my head (However I'm pretty certain) they are 7/16" BSF
(British Standard Fine, a Whitworth thread).

Metric & Multi Standard Corporation is where I have purchased all my
Whitworth Taps and Dies (High quality German HSS).  They have a British
section.  I use their HSS British Hexagon Die Nuts #7382 (Re-threading
dies).  They are not cheap!

http://www.metricmcc.com/

http://www.metricmcc.com/products/british/cutting_tools.htm

Curt

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div>Stephen,<br><br></div>Off the top of my hea=
d (However I&#39;m pretty certain) they are 7/16&quot; BSF (British Standar=
d Fine, a Whitworth thread).<br><br></div>Metric &amp; Multi Standard Corpo=
ration is where I have purchased all my Whitworth Taps and Dies (High quali=
ty German HSS).=C2=A0 They have a British section.=C2=A0 I use their HSS Br=
itish Hexagon Die Nuts #7382 (Re-threading dies).=C2=A0 They are not cheap!=
<br><br><a href=3D"http://www.metricmcc.com/">http://www.metricmcc.com/</a>=
<br><br><a href=3D"http://www.metricmcc.com/products/british/cutting_tools.=
htm">http://www.metricmcc.com/products/british/cutting_tools.htm</a><br><br=
></div>Curt<br><div><br><br><br><br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">=
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Nov 1, 2015 at 6:16 AM, STEPHEN CUSS=
 <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" tar=
get=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><bloc=
kquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #cc=
c solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style=3D"color:#000;background-color:#f=
ff;font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,S=
ans-Serif;font-size:12px"><div>Hi,</div><div><br></div><div>Hoping someone =
can help me, I have an original BN1 100/4 built in 1954 some of the front w=
heel studs which hold the brake drum on look a little worn, so I was lookin=
g to buy a die and re-cut the threads, does anybody know what size and Teet=
h per Inch (TPI) these studs are?</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks</div><div=
 dir=3D"ltr">in advance for your help with this matter</div><span class=3D"=
HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888"><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
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From: Bob Spidell <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2015 15:00:38 +0000 (UTC)

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My first thought was 'wow, do you really want to remove much, if any, metal from a wheel stud?' But, if you're just gonna clean up some burrs on the threads you should be OK. 

http://britishfasteners.com/dies/bsf-dies.html 

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From: "Michael Salter" <[email-masked]> 
To: "STEPHEN CUSS" <[email-masked]> 
Cc: "healeys" <[email-masked]> 
Sent: Sunday, November 1, 2015 6:27:39 AM 
Subject: Re: [Healeys] BN1 Front wirewheel hub studs 

Hi Shephen, 
The brake drum studs are 7/16 x 18TPI threads. The thread type is British Standard Fine (B.S.F) 

Michael Salter 
BN1 #174 

On Sun, Nov 1, 2015 at 9:16 AM, STEPHEN CUSS < [email-masked] > wrote: 

Hi, 

Thanks 

Stephen 

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<html><body><div style=3D"font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #0000=
00"><div>My first thought was 'wow, do you really want to remove much, if a=
ny, metal from a wheel stud?'&nbsp; But, if you're just gonna clean up some=
 burrs on the threads you should be OK.<br></div><div><br></div><div>http:/=
/britishfasteners.com/dies/bsf-dies.html</div><div><br></div><div><br></div=
><hr id=3D"zwchr"><div style=3D"color:#000;font-weight:normal;font-style:no=
rmal;text-decoration:none;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:=
12pt;"><b>From: </b>"Michael Salter" &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>=
To: </b>"STEPHEN CUSS" &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Cc: </b>=
"healeys" &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Sent: </b>Sunday, November 1=
, 2015 6:27:39 AM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Healeys] BN1 Front wirewheel hub =
studs<br><div><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=
=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">Hi Shephen,<br></=
div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-se=
rif;font-size:small">The brake drum studs are 7/16 x 18TPI threads. The thr=
ead type is British Standard Fine (B.S.F)<br><div><br></div></div><div clas=
s=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size=
:small">Michael Salter <br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font=
-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">BN1 #174<br></div></div><=
div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Nov 1, 201=
5 at 9:16 AM, STEPHEN CUSS <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:stephen.=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&=
gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px=
 #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote"><div><div style=3D"colo=
r:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helve=
tica,Arial,Lucida Grande,Sans-Serif;font-size:12px"><div>Hi,</div><div><br>=
</div><div>Hoping someone can help me, I have an original BN1 100/4 built i=
n 1954 some of the front wheel studs which hold the brake drum on look a li=
ttle worn, so I was looking to buy a die and re-cut the threads, does anybo=
dy know what size and Teeth per Inch (TPI) these studs are?</div><div><br><=
/div><div>Thanks</div><div dir=3D"ltr">in advance for your help with this m=
atter</div><span class=3D"HOEnZb"><span style=3D"color: #888888;" data-mce-=
style=3D"color: #888888;" color=3D"#888888"><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div=
 dir=3D"ltr">Stephen</div></span></span></div></div><br></blockquote></div>=
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From: Michael Salter <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2015 10:32:48 -0500

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Bob et al,
Actually those studs only secure the brake drum to the hub so are not
subjected to axial loads anything like those of a wheel stud.
The problem is that they are quite special in that they are threaded on
each end with a land between the threads. (Pic attached).
The shorter end is threaded through the hub flange and "staked" to prevent
their unscrewing from the hub. (Pic attached) As I recall this is done
because of the limited space.
Getting these "staked" ends out of the hub without ruining the critical
thread in the hub can be very difficult and usually involves careful
drilling and re-tapping of the BSF threads in the hub.
Having recently encountered a pair of hubs with these threads ruined by
someone trying to remove the "staked" studs the only solution I could come
up with was to turn up even specialer (new word) studs with 3/8" UNF
threads to use in re-tapped threads in the hub...
Had all 8 studs all done in about 6 hours  ... you have to find something
to do when it is -30C outside :-)
Michael S.
BN1 #174

On Sun, Nov 1, 2015 at 10:00 AM, Bob Spidell <[email-masked]> wrote:

> My first thought was 'wow, do you really want to remove much, if any,
> metal from a wheel stud?'  But, if you're just gonna clean up some burrs on
> the threads you should be OK.
>
> ------------------------------
> *From: *"Michael Salter" <[email-masked]>
> *To: *"STEPHEN CUSS" <[email-masked]>
> *Cc: *"healeys" <[email-masked]>
> *Sent: *Sunday, November 1, 2015 6:27:39 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [Healeys] BN1 Front wirewheel hub studs
>
> Hi Shephen,
> On Sun, Nov 1, 2015 at 9:16 AM, STEPHEN CUSS <
> [email-masked]> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sa=
ns ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">Bob et al,<br>Actually those studs only s=
ecure the brake drum to the hub so are not subjected to axial loads anythin=
g like those of a wheel stud.<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=
=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">The problem is th=
at they are quite special in that they are threaded on each end with a land=
 between the threads. (Pic attached).<br>The shorter end is threaded throug=
h the hub flange and &quot;staked&quot; to prevent their unscrewing from th=
e hub. (Pic attached) As I recall this is done because of the limited space=
. <br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms=
,sans-serif;font-size:small">Getting these &quot;staked&quot; ends out of t=
he hub without ruining the critical thread in the hub can be very difficult=
 and usually involves careful drilling and re-tapping of the BSF threads in=
 the hub. <br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic=
 sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">Having recently encountered a pair of =
hubs with these threads ruined by someone trying to remove the &quot;staked=
&quot; studs the only solution I could come up with was to turn up even spe=
cialer (new word) studs with 3/8&quot; UNF threads to use in re-tapped thre=
ads in the hub... <br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-fami=
ly:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">Had all 8 studs all done in ab=
out 6 hours=C2=A0 ... you have to find something to do when it is -30C outs=
ide :-)<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sa=
ns ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">Michael S.<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_d=
efault" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">BN1 =
#174<br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quot=
e">On Sun, Nov 1, 2015 at 10:00 AM, Bob Spidell <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</=
a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0=
 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style=3D"f=
ont-family:Arial;font-size:12pt;color:#000000"><div>My first thought was &#=
39;wow, do you really want to remove much, if any, metal from a wheel stud?=
&#39;=C2=A0 But, if you&#39;re just gonna clean up some burrs on the thread=
s you should be OK.<br></div><div><br></div><div><a href=3D"http://britishf=
asteners.com/dies/bsf-dies.html" target=3D"_blank">http://britishfasteners.=
com/dies/bsf-dies.html</a></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><hr><div styl=
e=3D"color:#000;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;f=
ont-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><b>From: </b>&quot;Mi=
chael Salter&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D=
"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><b>To: </b>&quot;STEPHEN CUSS&q=
uot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank"=
>[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><b>Cc: </b>&quot;healeys&quot; &l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox=
.team.net</a>&gt;<br><b>Sent: </b>Sunday, November 1, 2015 6:27:39 AM<br><b=
>Subject: </b>Re: [Healeys] BN1 Front wirewheel hub studs<span class=3D""><=
br><div><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"fo=
nt-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">Hi Shephen,<br></div><d=
iv class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;fo=
nt-size:small">The brake drum studs are 7/16 x 18TPI threads. The thread ty=
pe is British Standard Fine (B.S.F)<br><div><br></div></div><div class=3D"g=
mail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small=
">Michael Salter <br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-famil=
y:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">BN1 #174<br></div></div><div cl=
ass=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Nov 1, 2015 at 9=
:16 AM, STEPHEN CUSS <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:stephen.j.cuss=
@btinternet.com" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</s=
pan> wrote:<br><blockquote style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc =
solid;padding-left:1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote"><div><div style=3D"color:#000=
;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,A=
rial,Lucida Grande,Sans-Serif;font-size:12px"><div>Hi,</div><div><br></div>=
<div>Hoping someone can help me, I have an original BN1 100/4 built in 1954=
 some of the front wheel studs which hold the brake drum on look a little w=
orn, so I was looking to buy a die and re-cut the threads, does anybody kno=
w what size and Teeth per Inch (TPI) these studs are?</div><div><br></div><=
div>Thanks</div><div dir=3D"ltr">in advance for your help with this matter<=
/div><span><span style=3D"color:#888888" color=3D"#888888"><div dir=3D"ltr"=
><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Stephen</div></span></span></div></div><br></bl=
ockquote></div></div><div><br></div></span></div><div><br></div></div></div=
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gnature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><i><font size=3D"2"><span s=
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