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Subject: Re: [WPTA] Dzus meeting
From: rroenigk--- via Wpta <wpta@autox.team.net>
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2019 14:23:06 +0000 (UTC)
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This all came about when friend went into PENNDOT last week to register new=
 purchase, 1966 MGB
Asked person at counter what difference is between Classic and Antique
The response was driving after dark and the insurance company may not cover=
 you
A call was made to insurance company. Response was, what ever each State re=
gulations are determines your coverage=C2=A0

This needs to be clarified=C2=A0
PENNDOT staff should know regs, not embellish

Thx
Rich R

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om>=C2=A0wrote:

I agree, Ed.=C2=A0
Lucas is a genuine concern, but that pertains to more than lamps. Ha Ha!
Bill


-----Original Message-----
From: EDWARD WOODS <fogbro1@comcast.net>
To: rroenigk <rroenigk@aol.com>; rroenigk--- via Wpta <wpta@autox.team.net>=
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Sent: Mon, Jan 28, 2019 8:57 am
Subject: Re: [WPTA] Dzus meeting

The only caution against driving your Triumph at night, whether it has PA c=
lassic or antique plates, it the one by Joseph Lucas. We had this discussio=
n 25 years ago. =C2=A0"Gentlemen don't motor about after dark".PennDot does=
n't care.Geez Loueez!!
Ed Woods
On January 28, 2019 at 7:45 AM rroenigk--- via Wpta <wpta@autox.team.net> w=
rote:=20
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Bill. =C2=A0I had a friend went to PENNDOT last week
The lady on desk told her that was difference between plates
And insurance company may not insure you=C2=A0
You would think they know=C2=A0

Would like to get in writing from PENNDOT
Thx
Rich R=20
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On=C2=A0Sunday, January 27, 2019,=C2=A0xj61975@aol.com=C2=A0<xj61975@aol.co=
m>=C2=A0wrote:

Even before any recent changes, there is no restriction to drive an antique=
 registered car in PA after dark as long as you lighting meets current stan=
dards. This has been true for at least the last 25 years if not longer. Man=
y people do not understand this and stick with Classic plates.=20
Bill Cooper=20
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 From: Joe Stout via Wpta <wpta@autox.team.net>=20
 To: rroenigk <rroenigk@aol.com>=20
 Cc: wpta <wpta@autox.team.net>=20
 Sent: Sun, Jan 27, 2019 9:10 pm=20
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I looked into the after dark driving in PA in the past, and this statement =
"used" to be there....
Antique=C2=A0vehicles operated exclusively between sunrise and=C2=A0sunset=
=C2=A0are exempt from the normal lighting=C2=A0requirements of the=C2=A0Pen=
nsylvania=C2=A0Vehicle Code, but must have their original lighting equipmen=
t.=C2=A0=C2=A0
It looks that that statement has now even been removed from the code, as I =
am unable to findit anyplace on PennDot documents...
Here is what I think is the current document that mentions nothing about dr=
iving after dark..
=C2=A0 USE OF ANTIQUE, CLASSIC AND VINTAGE REGISTRATION PLATES The use of a=
ntique, classic and vintage registration plates is governed by Section 1340=
 of the Pennsylvania Vehicle Code, which states: =E2=80=9CIt is unlawful fo=
r any person to operate a motorcycle or vehicle with antique, classic or vi=
ntage registration plates for general daily transportation. Permitted use s=
hall be limited to participation in club activities, exhibits, tours, parad=
es, occasional transportation and similar uses.=E2=80=9D Occasional transpo=
rtation and similar uses are defined as no more than one day a week. Althou=
gh buses and trucks are eligible for antique, classic and vintage registrat=
ion plates, buses MAY NOT be used to transport passengers and trucks MAY NO=
T haul cargo. Antique, classic and vintage registration plates are not avai=
lable for motorized pedalcycles or motor homes.=C2=A0
http://www.dot.state.pa.us/public/dvspubsforms/BMV/BMV%20Fact%20Sheets/fs-a=
nt.pdf=20

My Thoughts...Happy Sunday :-)
Joe


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Subject for discussion=C2=A0
Antique Tags
If PA law says can=E2=80=99t drive after dark, does your insurance company =
still cover you if you do ?
Mine is American Modern and they say they go by each States restrictions / =
guidelines=C2=A0
I would not be covered when driving in dark hours in PA
Appreciate any feedback=C2=A0
Thx
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This all came about when friend went into PENNDOT last week to register new=
 purchase, 1966 MGB<div><br></div><div>Asked person at counter what differe=
nce is between Classic and Antique</div><div><br></div><div>The response wa=
s driving after dark and the insurance company may not cover you</div><div>=
<br></div><div>A call was made to insurance company. Response was, what eve=
r each State regulations are determines your coverage&nbsp;</div><div><br><=
/div><div><br></div><div>This needs to be clarified&nbsp;</div><div><br></d=
iv><div>PENNDOT staff should know regs, not embellish</div><div><br></div><=
div><br></div><div>Thx</div><div><br></div><div>Rich R<br><br><div id=3D"__=
aol_mail_signature__"><div style=3D"font-family:HelveticaNeue-Light;color:#=
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<br><div class=3D"aolmail_replyHeader">
    On&nbsp;Monday, January 28, 2019,&nbsp;xj61975@aol.com&nbsp;&lt;xj61975=
@aol.com&gt;&nbsp;wrote:
</div><br>
<blockquote style=3D"margin:0 0 0 9px;padding:0 0 0 9px;"><div id=3D"yiv995=
5300153"><div><font color=3D"black" size=3D"2" face=3D"arial">I agree, Ed.&=
nbsp;
</font><div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>

<div>Lucas is a genuine concern, but that pertains to more than lamps. Ha H=
a!</div>

<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>

<div>Bill<br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">

<div class=3D"yiv9955300153yqt9458722592" id=3D"yiv9955300153yqt81371"><div=
 style=3D"font-family:arial, helvetica;font-size:10pt;color:black;">-----Or=
iginal Message-----<br clear=3D"none">
From: EDWARD WOODS &lt;fogbro1@comcast.net&gt;<br clear=3D"none">
To: rroenigk &lt;rroenigk@aol.com&gt;; rroenigk--- via Wpta &lt;wpta@autox.=
team.net&gt;; xj61975 &lt;xj61975@aol.com&gt;<br clear=3D"none">
Sent: Mon, Jan 28, 2019 8:57 am<br clear=3D"none">
Subject: Re: [WPTA] Dzus meeting<br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">

<div id=3D"yiv9955300153">
<div>
<div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;color=
:rgb(51, 51, 51);">The only caution against driving your Triumph at night, =
whether it has PA classic or antique plates, it the one by Joseph Lucas. We=
 had this discussion 25 years ago. &nbsp;</div>

<div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;color=
:rgb(51, 51, 51);">"Gentlemen don't motor about after dark".</div>

<div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;color=
:rgb(51, 51, 51);">PennDot doesn't care.</div>

<div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;color=
:rgb(51, 51, 51);">Geez Loueez!!</div>

<div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;color=
:rgb(51, 51, 51);"><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;color=
:rgb(51, 51, 51);">Ed Woods</div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">On January 28, 2019 at 7:45 AM rroenigk--- via Wp=
ta &lt;wpta@autox.team.net&gt; wrote: <br clear=3D"none"> <br clear=3D"none=
">Bill. &nbsp;I had a friend went to PENNDOT last week
<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div>The lady on desk told her that was difference between plates</div>

<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div>And insurance company may not insure you&nbsp;</div>

<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div>You would think they know&nbsp;</div>

<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div>Would like to get in writing from PENNDOT</div>

<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div>Thx</div>

<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div>Rich R <br clear=3D"none"> <br clear=3D"none">
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y, January 27, 2019,&nbsp;xj61975@aol.com&nbsp;&lt;xj61975@aol.com&gt;&nbsp=
;wrote:</div>
<br clear=3D"none"><blockquote>
<div><span style=3D"color:black;font-family:arial;font-size:small;">Even be=
fore any recent changes, there is no restriction to drive an antique regist=
ered car in PA after dark as long as you lighting meets current standards. =
This has been true for at least the last 25 years if not longer. Many peopl=
e do not understand this and stick with Classic plates. </span>
<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div>Bill Cooper <br clear=3D"none"> <br clear=3D"none"> <br clear=3D"none"=
>
<div style=3D"font-family:arial, helvetica;font-size:10pt;color:black;">---=
--Original Message----- <br clear=3D"none"> From: Joe Stout via Wpta &lt;wp=
ta@autox.team.net&gt; <br clear=3D"none"> To: rroenigk &lt;rroenigk@aol.com=
&gt; <br clear=3D"none"> Cc: wpta &lt;wpta@autox.team.net&gt; <br clear=3D"=
none"> Sent: Sun, Jan 27, 2019 9:10 pm <br clear=3D"none"> Subject: Re: [WP=
TA] Dzus meeting <br clear=3D"none"> <br clear=3D"none">
<div class=3D"yiv9955300153ox-21ad06c92a-yiv3687656312yqt8390187375" id=3D"=
yiv9955300153ox-21ad06c92a-yiv3687656312yqt03638">
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<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">
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<div>I looked into the after dark driving in PA in the past, and this state=
ment "used" to be there....</div>

<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div><strong><span style=3D"color:#6a6a6a;font-family:Roboto, arial, sans-s=
erif;">Antique</span><span style=3D"color:#545454;font-family:Roboto, arial=
, sans-serif;">&nbsp;vehicles operated exclusively between sunrise and&nbsp=
;</span><span style=3D"color:#6a6a6a;font-family:Roboto, arial, sans-serif;=
">sunset</span><span style=3D"color:#545454;font-family:Roboto, arial, sans=
-serif;">&nbsp;are exempt from the normal lighting&nbsp;</span></strong></d=
iv>

<div><strong><span style=3D"color:#545454;font-family:Roboto, arial, sans-s=
erif;">requirements of the&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"color:#6a6a6a;font-fa=
mily:Roboto, arial, sans-serif;">Pennsylvania</span><span style=3D"color:#5=
45454;font-family:Roboto, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;Vehicle Code, but must =
have their original lighting equipment.</span>&nbsp;&nbsp;</strong></div>

<div><strong><br clear=3D"none"></strong></div>

<div>It looks that that statement has now even been removed from the code, =
as I am unable to find</div>

<div>it anyplace on PennDot documents...</div>

<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div>Here is what I think is the current document that mentions nothing abo=
ut driving after dark..</div>

<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div>&nbsp; <strong>USE OF ANTIQUE, CLASSIC AND VINTAGE REGISTRATION PLATES=
 The use of antique, classic and vintage registration plates is governed by=
 Section 1340 of the Pennsylvania Vehicle Code, which states: =E2=80=9CIt i=
s unlawful for any person to operate a motorcycle or vehicle with antique, =
classic or vintage registration plates for general daily transportation. Pe=
rmitted use shall be limited to participation in club activities, exhibits,=
 tours, parades, occasional transportation and similar uses.=E2=80=9D Occas=
ional transportation and similar uses are defined as no more than one day a=
 week. Although buses and trucks are eligible for antique, classic and vint=
age registration plates, buses MAY NOT be used to transport passengers and =
trucks MAY NOT haul cargo. Antique, classic and vintage registration plates=
 are not available for motorized pedalcycles or motor homes.</strong>&nbsp;=
</div>

<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div><a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://ww=
w.dot.state.pa.us/public/dvspubsforms/BMV/BMV%20Fact%20Sheets/fs-ant.pdf">h=
ttp://www.dot.state.pa.us/public/dvspubsforms/BMV/BMV%20Fact%20Sheets/fs-an=
t.pdf</a> <br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div>My Thoughts...</div>

<div>Happy Sunday :-)</div>

<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div>Joe</div>

<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>

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r">On Sun, Jan 27, 2019 at 7:17 PM rroenigk--- via Wpta &lt; <a rel=3D"nofo=
llow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:wpta@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blan=
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yiv9955300153ox-21ad06c92a-yiv3687656312yqtfd86776">Subject for discussion&=
nbsp;
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<div>Antique Tags</div>

<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div>If PA law says can=E2=80=99t drive after dark, does your insurance com=
pany still cover you if you do ?</div>

<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div>Mine is American Modern and they say they go by each States restrictio=
ns / guidelines&nbsp;</div>

<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div>I would not be covered when driving in dark hours in PA</div>

<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div>Appreciate any feedback&nbsp;</div>

<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div>Thx</div>

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