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Re: [WPTA] Dzus meeting

To: rroenigk@aol.com, rroenigk--- via Wpta <wpta@autox.team.net>, xj61975@aol.com
Subject: Re: [WPTA] Dzus meeting
From: EDWARD WOODS via Wpta <wpta@autox.team.net>
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2019 08:57:14 -0500 (EST)
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The only caution against driving your Triumph at night, whether it has PA c=
lassic or antique plates, it the one by Joseph Lucas. We had this discussio=
n 25 years ago. =20

"Gentlemen don't motor about after dark".

PennDot doesn't care.

Geez Loueez!!


Ed Woods

> On January 28, 2019 at 7:45 AM rroenigk--- via Wpta <wpta@autox.team.net>=
 wrote:
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>     Bill.  I had a friend went to PENNDOT last week
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>     The lady on desk told her that was difference between plates
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>     And insurance company may not insure you=20
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>     You would think they know=20
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>     Would like to get in writing from PENNDOT
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>     Thx
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>     Rich R
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>     On Sunday, January 27, 2019, xj61975@aol.com <xj61975@aol.com> wrote:
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>         > >         Even before any recent changes, there is no restricti=
on to drive an antique registered car in PA after dark as long as you light=
ing meets current standards. This has been true for at least the last 25 ye=
ars if not longer. Many people do not understand this and stick with Classi=
c plates.
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> >         Bill Cooper
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> >         -----Original Message-----
> >         From: Joe Stout via Wpta <wpta@autox.team.net>
> >         To: rroenigk <rroenigk@aol.com>
> >         Cc: wpta <wpta@autox.team.net>
> >         Sent: Sun, Jan 27, 2019 9:10 pm
> >         Subject: Re: [WPTA] Dzus meeting
> >=20
> >=20
> >         I looked into the after dark driving in PA in the past, and thi=
s statement "used" to be there....
> >=20
> >         Antique vehicles operated exclusively between sunrise and sunse=
t are exempt from the normal lighting=20
> >         requirements of the Pennsylvania Vehicle Code, but must have th=
eir original lighting equipment. =20
> >=20
> >         It looks that that statement has now even been removed from the=
 code, as I am unable to find
> >         it anyplace on PennDot documents...
> >=20
> >         Here is what I think is the current document that mentions noth=
ing about driving after dark..
> >=20
> >           USE OF ANTIQUE, CLASSIC AND VINTAGE REGISTRATION PLATES The u=
se of antique, classic and vintage registration plates is governed by Secti=
on 1340 of the Pennsylvania Vehicle Code, which states: =E2=80=9CIt is unla=
wful for any person to operate a motorcycle or vehicle with antique, classi=
c or vintage registration plates for general daily transportation. Permitte=
d use shall be limited to participation in club activities, exhibits, tours=
, parades, occasional transportation and similar uses.=E2=80=9D Occasional =
transportation and similar uses are defined as no more than one day a week.=
 Although buses and trucks are eligible for antique, classic and vintage re=
gistration plates, buses MAY NOT be used to transport passengers and trucks=
 MAY NOT haul cargo. Antique, classic and vintage registration plates are n=
ot available for motorized pedalcycles or motor homes.=20
> >=20
> >         http://www.dot.state.pa.us/public/dvspubsforms/BMV/BMV%20Fact%2=
0Sheets/fs-ant.pdf
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> >         My Thoughts...
> >         Happy Sunday :-)
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> >         Joe
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> >         On Sun, Jan 27, 2019 at 7:17 PM rroenigk--- via Wpta < wpta@aut=
ox.team.net mailto:wpta@autox.team.net > wrote:
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> >             > > >             Subject for discussion=20
> > >=20
> > >             Antique Tags
> > >=20
> > >             If PA law says can=E2=80=99t drive after dark, does your =
insurance company still cover you if you do ?
> > >=20
> > >             Mine is American Modern and they say they go by each Stat=
es restrictions / guidelines=20
> > >=20
> > >             I would not be covered when driving in dark hours in PA
> > >=20
> > >             Appreciate any feedback=20
> > >=20
> > >             Thx
> > >=20
> > >             Rich R
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> > >             On Sunday, January 27, 2019, Bruce Stutzman via Wpta < wp=
ta@autox.team.net mailto:wpta@autox.team.net > wrote:
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> > >                 > > > >                 Tomorow
> > > >                 Monday January 28
> > > >                 6:00 pm
> > > >                 Suny Jims
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    <meta charset=3D"UTF-8">
</head><body><p style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sa=
ns-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);">The only caution against driving your Tr=
iumph at night, whether it has PA classic or antique plates, it the one by =
Joseph Lucas. We had this discussion 25 years ago. &#160;</p><p style=3D"fo=
nt-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51=
, 51);">&#34;Gentlemen don&#39;t motor about after dark&#34;.</p><p style=
=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(=
51, 51, 51);">PennDot doesn&#39;t care.</p><p style=3D"font-size: 12pt; fon=
t-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);">Geez Louee=
z!!</p><p style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-ser=
if; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);"><br></p><p style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-fami=
ly: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);">Ed Woods</p><blo=
ckquote type=3D"cite">On January 28, 2019 at 7:45 AM rroenigk--- via Wpta &=
#60;wpta@autox.team.net&#62; wrote: <br> <br>Bill. &#160;I had a friend wen=
t to PENNDOT last week<div><br></div><div>The lady on desk told her that wa=
s difference between plates</div><div><br></div><div>And insurance company =
may not insure you&#160;</div><div><br></div><div>You would think they know=
&#160;</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Would like to get in writing=
 from PENNDOT</div><div><br></div><div>Thx</div><div><br></div><div>Rich R =
<br> <br><div style=3D"font-family: HelveticaNeue-Light; color: #949494; fo=
nt-size: 11px;">Sent from AOL Mobile Mail <br>Get the new AOL app: <a style=
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.mobile.aol.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener">mail.mobile.aol.com</a>=
</div><br><div class=3D"ox-21ad06c92a-aolmail_replyHeader">On&#160;Sunday, =
January 27, 2019,&#160;xj61975@aol.com&#160;&#60;xj61975@aol.com&#62;&#160;=
wrote:</div><br><blockquote><div><span style=3D"color: black; font-family: =
arial; font-size: small;">Even before any recent changes, there is no restr=
iction to drive an antique registered car in PA after dark as long as you l=
ighting meets current standards. This has been true for at least the last 2=
5 years if not longer. Many people do not understand this and stick with Cl=
assic plates. </span><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>Bill Cooper <br cle=
ar=3D"none"> <br clear=3D"none"> <br clear=3D"none"><div style=3D"font-fami=
ly: arial, helvetica; font-size: 10pt; color: black;">-----Original Message=
----- <br clear=3D"none"> From: Joe Stout via Wpta &#60;wpta@autox.team.net=
&#62; <br clear=3D"none"> To: rroenigk &#60;rroenigk@aol.com&#62; <br clear=
=3D"none"> Cc: wpta &#60;wpta@autox.team.net&#62; <br clear=3D"none"> Sent:=
 Sun, Jan 27, 2019 9:10 pm <br clear=3D"none"> Subject: Re: [WPTA] Dzus mee=
ting <br clear=3D"none"> <br clear=3D"none"><div class=3D"ox-21ad06c92a-yiv=
3687656312yqt8390187375" id=3D"ox-21ad06c92a-yiv3687656312yqt03638"><div id=
=3D"ox-21ad06c92a-yiv3687656312"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><br=
 clear=3D"none"><div>I looked into the after dark driving in PA in the past=
, and this statement &#34;used&#34; to be there....</div><div><br clear=3D"=
none"></div><div><strong><span style=3D"color: #6a6a6a; font-family: Roboto=
, arial, sans-serif;">Antique</span><span style=3D"color: #545454; font-fam=
ily: Roboto, arial, sans-serif;">&#160;vehicles operated exclusively betwee=
n sunrise and&#160;</span><span style=3D"color: #6a6a6a; font-family: Robot=
o, arial, sans-serif;">sunset</span><span style=3D"color: #545454; font-fam=
ily: Roboto, arial, sans-serif;">&#160;are exempt from the normal lighting&=
#160;</span></strong></div><div><strong><span style=3D"color: #545454; font=
-family: Roboto, arial, sans-serif;">requirements of the&#160;</span><span =
style=3D"color: #6a6a6a; font-family: Roboto, arial, sans-serif;">Pennsylva=
nia</span><span style=3D"color: #545454; font-family: Roboto, arial, sans-s=
erif;">&#160;Vehicle Code, but must have their original lighting equipment.=
</span>&#160;&#160;</strong></div><div><strong><br clear=3D"none"></strong>=
</div><div>It looks that that statement has now even been removed from the =
code, as I am unable to find</div><div>it anyplace on PennDot documents...<=
/div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>Here is what I think is the current=
 document that mentions nothing about driving after dark..</div><div><br cl=
ear=3D"none"></div><div>&#160; <strong>USE OF ANTIQUE, CLASSIC AND VINTAGE =
REGISTRATION PLATES The use of antique, classic and vintage registration pl=
ates is governed by Section 1340 of the Pennsylvania Vehicle Code, which st=
ates: &#8220;It is unlawful for any person to operate a motorcycle or vehic=
le with antique, classic or vintage registration plates for general daily t=
ransportation. Permitted use shall be limited to participation in club acti=
vities, exhibits, tours, parades, occasional transportation and similar use=
s.&#8221; Occasional transportation and similar uses are defined as no more=
 than one day a week. Although buses and trucks are eligible for antique, c=
lassic and vintage registration plates, buses MAY NOT be used to transport =
passengers and trucks MAY NOT haul cargo. Antique, classic and vintage regi=
stration plates are not available for motorized pedalcycles or motor homes.=
</strong>&#160;</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div><a target=3D"_blank=
" href=3D"http://www.dot.state.pa.us/public/dvspubsforms/BMV/BMV%20Fact%20S=
heets/fs-ant.pdf" rel=3D"noopener">http://www.dot.state.pa.us/public/dvspub=
sforms/BMV/BMV%20Fact%20Sheets/fs-ant.pdf</a> <br clear=3D"none"></div><div=
><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>My Thoughts...</div><div>Happy Sunday :-)</d=
iv><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>Joe</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></di=
v><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>&#160; <=
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a-yiv3687656312gmail_attr" dir=3D"ltr">On Sun, Jan 27, 2019 at 7:17 PM rroe=
nigk--- via Wpta &#60; <a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:wpta@autox.team.=
net" rel=3D"noopener">wpta@autox.team.net</a>&#62; wrote: <br clear=3D"none=
"></div></div><blockquote><div class=3D"ox-21ad06c92a-yiv3687656312yqt45552=
58857" id=3D"ox-21ad06c92a-yiv3687656312yqtfd86776">Subject for discussion&=
#160;<div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>Antique Tags</div><div><br clear=3D=
"none"></div><div>If PA law says can&#8217;t drive after dark, does your in=
surance company still cover you if you do ?</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></=
div><div>Mine is American Modern and they say they go by each States restri=
ctions / guidelines&#160;</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>I would n=
ot be covered when driving in dark hours in PA</div><div><br clear=3D"none"=
></div><div>Appreciate any feedback&#160;</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></di=
v><div>Thx</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>Rich R <br clear=3D"none=
"> <br clear=3D"none"><div id=3D"ox-21ad06c92a-yiv3687656312gmail-m_5147701=
20480091299__aol_mail_signature__"><div style=3D"font-family: HelveticaNeue=
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v class=3D"ox-21ad06c92a-yiv3687656312gmail-m_514770120480091299aolmail_rep=
lyHeader">On&#160;Sunday, January 27, 2019,&#160;Bruce Stutzman via Wpta&#1=
60;&#60; <a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:wpta@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"no=
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 pm</div><div>Suny Jims</div></div></div>__________________________________=
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