----- Original Message -----
From: Ted Schumacher <tedtsimx@q1.net>
To: Greg Solow <Gregmogdoc@surfnetusa.com>
Cc: R. John Lye <rjl6n@server1.mail.virginia.edu>; <fot@autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, September 24, 1999 4:38 AM
Subject: Re: "Were Raced"?and Vintage Racing
> Greg Solow wrote:
> >
> > I believe that part of the essence of "Vintage Racing " is the
> > preservation of historically significant cars. It should also be for
the
> > preservation of any real race cars from the era that we want to
designate as
> > significant.
> > So if you can show that a car was really raced in a certain form with a
real
> > sanctioning body, then I would say that it would be fair to race it that
> > way. Fender flairs certainly change the appearance of a car. Whether
they
> > improve or detract may be a matter of personal opinion, but I don't
think
> > that they alone are going to make a significant diference in a cars
> > performnance. What bothers me are Dry sumped engines, oversize valves,
> > oversize carburators (like MG-Bs with 2 inch SU carbs, they should run
the
> > 1 3/4 inch carbs that were optional in the mid 60's), oversize engines,
> > super lowered suspensions, altered suspension pickup points and
radically
> > altered geometry. Also non original transmissions, like datsun 5 speeds
in
> > so called "sprites".
> >
> > Regards, Greg Solow
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: R. John Lye <rjl6n@server1.mail.virginia.edu>
> > To: <fot@autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Thursday, September 23, 1999 6:56 AM
> > Subject: Re: "Were Raced"?and Vintage Racing
> >
> > > At 08:21 AM 9/23/99 -0500, Jack W Drews wrote:
> > > >Thanks for the breath of fresh air. My car is almost 1967 legal and
> > > >I'm proud of it.
> > >
> > > <snip>
> > > >> Greg Solow (or was it Stewart) wrote:
> > > >> My personal preference would be for the SCCA rules in force in
the
> > 1967
> > > >> GCR be used as a guideline for car preparation.
> > >
> > > I'm no longer involved with vintage racing, so maybe my opinion
> > > doesn't really matter. However, I do have a bit of a problem with
> > > this simple solution - and that is during that time frame, the SCCA
> > > wasn't the only game in town. There were several non-SCCA race
series,
> > > especially in California I am told, that used slightly different
> > > preparation rules. So, insisting on 1967 SCCA legality is actually
> > > re-writing history by dis-allowing some "correct" vintage cars.
> > > For example, my TR-4 has steel flares that, according to the story
> > > told by a previous owner, were installed on the car in 1965 and it
> > > was raced that way in non-SCCA races in California. The stricter
> > > vintage clubs would make me take those flares off the car, even though
> > > they are, in fact, historically correct for that car in that time
frame.
> > >
> > > Any comments?
> > >
> > > John Lye
> > >
> > > '59 TR-3A, '62 TR-4, '70 GT-6+
> > > email: rjl6n@virginia.edu
> > > homepage: http://avery.med.virginia.edu/~rjl6n/homepage.htm
> > >
> this has been a great dixusion. what we all need to remember is not
> that many cars were raced in the time period most groups use as a
> shutoff point. if all vintage race events were limited to cars that had
> actually been raced at a given time period, there would be SMALL fields
> and 1 or 2 car classes. vintage events by the major sanctioning bodies
> such as hsr, svra, etc are for profit events. they have only a passing
> interest in "love of the sport". without large fields, no revenues. no
> revenues = fewer events and so on. also, there is obviusly a fairly
> large cottage industry that has sprung up in the vintage race market.
> service groups, parts suppliers, etc. point is without thecars that
> have been "built" to be vintage racers, this form of motorsports would
> be relegated back to a sport for the few. ted
> --
> Ted Schumacher
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