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To: robert rudolphi <robertrudolphi@yahoo.com> lti5ZKbiHih/5eSc5e41Cij9FE9QNznBw0H8bYTWrv+1NsgpDnMBQBmAPCfHrhOtU19QMLR KTmv6eeYm9i4ZghiZ9pqpBtU9LYr3+hy2z4NL9wk/Zquv7vgPZgqawpvIXNeqyw4AEkHzGP T88TkdCKB0Ox8d5TY3ybQ==
Subject: Re: [TR] GENUINE Wilmot Breedon Ignition keys
From: John Macartney <johnbmacartney@gmx.com>
Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2026 13:25:38 +0000
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Sorry to about the possible demise of Pete Groh. Sadly, none of us can escap=
e =E2=80=98the end=E2=80=99 whenever it=E2=80=99s to be. As I said yesterday=
, Don Hiscock has kindly offered to unofficially import the keys when in the=
 UK next month. Looks as though we still need someone to put their hand up t=
o do the custodial bit on the longer term. I could of course chuck them out h=
ere to save Don and others the aggro but thought to offer them here first. T=
hanks to any who may have reposted my email of yesterday on to others for th=
eir information.

Jonmac

> On 22 Mar 2026, at 12:32, robert rudolphi <robertrudolphi@yahoo.com> wrote=
:
>=20
> Hi All,=20
> Unfortunately, I don=E2=80=99t believe Pete is in the key business anymore=
 and not sure he is even with us. I stopped by his house (I was local in Mar=
yland) about 10 years ago to get some spare keys for my TR6. He showed me ar=
ound his garage where he had an Austin Healy 3000 and a TR4, that were in va=
rious stages of being worked on but had not been run or driven in quite some=
 time. He was not doing very well then, had lost his wife and was getting up=
 in years. I helped him move some water bottles and had a nice chat with him=
, but you could tell things were winding down. I hope I am wrong.
> Robert=20
> Robert Rudolphi
>=20
>=20
> On Saturday, March 21, 2026 at 09:39:25 PM EDT, Chuck White <triumph.drive=
r@gmail.com> wrote:
>=20
>=20
> John,
>=20
> The gentleman's name you can't remember is Pete Groh of Ellicott City, MD.=
  His email address is pete_groh@yahoo.com.  Hope this helps keeping the key=
 blanks out of the trash!
>=20
> Cheers,
> Chuck
>=20
>> On 3/21/2026 1:05 PM, JOHN MACARTNEY wrote:
>> Friends,
>> =20
>> We all reach an age where the 'Grim Reaper' is hovering and I reached tha=
t point some time back.
>> =20
>> I've lost the name of the guy on this list who made duplicate keys so can=
't contact him but I've got some keys I can either sling in the trash or tel=
l you what I've got. They will fit any Wilmot Breedon lock from the late 194=
0's up to about the late 1960's and will almost certainly fit any UK car mak=
e covered by that period. I'm not willing to send them out piecemeal but wou=
ld much rather let them go to someone who might be able to help out another p=
erson in any other British car club.
>>=20
>> You can have them for the cost of the postage AND duty which will be US15=
.00 as I've already had them weighed at the post office. It really grieves m=
e that whoever pays the postage is going to get lumbered with import duty fo=
r what is really just scrap metal, but I don't set US laws. For the record, a=
s the keys have no value, duty is levied on the weight of the package and th=
at duty is paid to the US Embassy in London. If I haven't had an email from a=
nyone by 31 March, I'll put them in the trash. The number and quantities are=
 on the attached .pdf Excel sheet.
>>=20
>> Cheers, Jonmac
>> =20
>>=20
>>=20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Sor=
ry to about the possible demise of Pete Groh. Sadly, none of us can escape =E2=
=80=98the end=E2=80=99 whenever it=E2=80=99s to be. As I said yesterday, Don=
 Hiscock has kindly offered to unofficially import the keys when in the UK n=
ext month. Looks as though we still need someone to put their hand up to do t=
he custodial bit on the longer term. I could of course chuck them out here t=
o save Don and others the aggro but thought to offer them here first. Thanks=
 to any who may have reposted my email of yesterday on to others for their i=
nformation.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Jonmac</div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr"><br>On 22 Mar 2026, at 12:32, robert rudolphi &lt;<a href=3D"m=
ailto:robertrudolphi@yahoo.com">robertrudolphi@yahoo.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><=
br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"ydp2b04258=
8yahoo-style-wrap" style=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sa=
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soNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom: 0in; line-height: normal; background-image=
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l; background-clip: initial;"><span style=3D"font-family:Helvetica,sans-seri=
f;mso-fareast-font-family:Times New Roman;color:black;mso-font-kerning:0pt;m=
so-ligatures:none">Hi All,</span><span style=3D"font-family: Helvetica, sans=
-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>

<p class=3D"ydpb57ada9dMsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom: 0in; line-height: n=
ormal; background-image: initial; background-position: initial; background-s=
ize: initial; background-repeat: initial; background-attachment: initial; ba=
ckground-origin: initial; background-clip: initial;"><span style=3D"font-fam=
ily:Helvetica,sans-serif;mso-fareast-font-family:Times New Roman;color:black=
;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-ligatures:none">Unfortunately, I don=E2=80=99t
believe Pete is in the key business anymore and not sure he is even with us.=
 I stopped
by his house (I was local in Maryland) about 10 years ago to get some spare
keys for my TR6. He showed me around his garage where he had an Austin Healy=

3000 and a TR4, that were in various stages of being worked on but had not b=
een
run or driven in quite some time. He was not doing very well then, had lost h=
is
wife and was getting up in years. I helped him move some water bottles and h=
ad
a nice chat with him, but you could tell things were winding down. I hope I a=
m
wrong.</span></p>

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ckground-origin: initial; background-clip: initial;"><span style=3D"font-fam=
ily: Helvetica, sans-serif;">Robert</span><span style=3D"font-family: Helvet=
ica, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>

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ily:Helvetica,sans-serif;mso-fareast-font-family:Times New Roman;color:black=
;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-ligatures:none">Robert Rudolphi</span></p></div><b=
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                        On Saturday, March 21, 2026 at 09:39:25 PM EDT, Chuc=
k White &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:triumph.driver@gmail.com";>triumph.driver@gmail=
.com</a>&gt; wrote:
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    John,<br>
    <br>
    The gentleman's name you can't remember is Pete Groh of Ellicott
    City, MD.&nbsp; His email address is <a href=3D"mailto:pete_groh@yahoo.c=
om" class=3D"ydp2b2544bfyiv3118898132moz-txt-link-abbreviated" rel=3D"nofoll=
ow" target=3D"_blank">pete_groh@yahoo.com</a>.&nbsp; Hope this
    helps keeping the key blanks out of the trash!<br>
    <br>
    Cheers,<br>
    Chuck<br>
    <br>
    <div class=3D"ydp2b2544bfyiv3118898132moz-cite-prefix">On 3/21/2026 1:05=
 PM, JOHN MACARTNEY
      wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
      <pre class=3D"ydp2b2544bfyiv3118898132moz-quote-pre">Friends,
&nbsp;
We all reach an age where the 'Grim Reaper' is hovering and I reached that p=
oint some time back.
&nbsp;
I've lost the name of the guy on this list who made duplicate keys so can't c=
ontact him but I've got some keys I can either sling in the trash or tell yo=
u what I've got. They will fit any Wilmot Breedon lock from the late 1940's u=
p to about the late 1960's and will almost certainly fit any UK car make cov=
ered by that period.&nbsp;I'm not willing to send them out piecemeal but wou=
ld much rather let them go to someone who might be able to help out another p=
erson in any other British car club.

You can have them for the cost of the postage AND duty which will be US15.00=
 as I've already had them weighed at the post office. It really grieves me t=
hat whoever pays the postage is going to get lumbered with import duty for w=
hat is really just scrap metal, but I don't set US laws. For the record, as t=
he keys have no value, duty is levied on the weight of the package and that d=
uty is paid to the US Embassy in London. If I haven't had an email from anyo=
ne by 31 March, I'll put them in the trash. The number and quantities are on=
 the attached .pdf Excel sheet.

Cheers, Jonmac
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