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Re: [TR] Another story from back in the day

To: John Macartney <johnbmacartney@gmx.com>
Subject: Re: [TR] Another story from back in the day
From: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com>
Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2026 16:12:21 +0000 (UTC)
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So you chose Kremlin over Taj Ma Conventry.=C2=A0 A sign of the times, I gu=
ess.=C2=A0 What with he cold war in full swing and all.=C2=A0 Were the hoi =
palloi required to prostrate themselves before entering or were they just b=
arred all together?=C2=A0 Of course that is just a rhetorical question.=C2=
=A0 We all know the answer.
Many thanks for the remembrances.=C2=A0
Dave=20


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    On Saturday, March 7, 2026 at 08:17:05 AM CST, John Macartney <johnbmac=
artney@gmx.com> wrote:  =20

 Sorry, my fault. =E2=80=9CThe Kremlin=E2=80=9D came about in the mid 1950=
=E2=80=99s and was in use by former CEO, Alice Dick, and a limited number o=
f his cohorts. Constructed at a time when there was some profligacy with co=
mpany finances. When Leyland bought the company in 1961, it fell into disus=
e. Rather than demolish it, the decision was taken to use it for odd confer=
ences and as a new car handover point for VIPs. When I knew it, the facilit=
y was still rather ostentatious and IMHO, overly opulent for the purposes i=
t didn=E2=80=99t really serve.
JM
On 7 Mar 2026, at 12:35, DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com> wrote:


Another great history of life at Triumph.=C2=A0=C2=A0
The only thing is there is a need for a little explanation regarding one of=
 the buildings in the map of the site.=C2=A0 Kremlin?!!!
Dave=20


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    On Friday, March 6, 2026 at 09:35:02 AM CST, JOHN MACARTNEY <johnbmacar=
tney@gmx.com> wrote:  =20

 An anecdote=C2=A0that no Public Relations professional is ever likely to a=
dmit to. Enjoy.=C2=A0Jonmac** triumphs@autox.team.net **

Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs=C2=A0 http://www.team.net/a=
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=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">So you chose Kremlin over Taj Ma Conventry.&=
nbsp; A sign of the times, I guess.&nbsp; What with he cold war in full swi=
ng and all.&nbsp; Were the hoi palloi required to prostrate themselves befo=
re entering or were they just barred all together?&nbsp; Of course that is =
just a rhetorical question.&nbsp; We all know the answer.</div><div dir=3D"=
ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"=
>Many thanks for the remembrances.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div class=3D"=
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                        On Saturday, March 7, 2026 at 08:17:05 AM CST, John=
 Macartney &lt;johnbmacartney@gmx.com&gt; wrote:
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                <div><div id=3D"ydp105ad43eyiv5073565107"><div><div dir=3D"=
ltr"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Sorry, my fault. =E2=80=9CThe Kremlin=E2=80=9D =
came about in the mid 1950=E2=80=99s and was in use by former CEO, Alice Di=
ck, and a limited number of his cohorts. Constructed at a time when there w=
as some profligacy with company finances. When Leyland bought the company i=
n 1961, it fell into disuse. Rather than demolish it, the decision was take=
n to use it for odd conferences and as a new car handover point for VIPs. W=
hen I knew it, the facility was still rather ostentatious and IMHO, overly =
opulent for the purposes it didn=E2=80=99t really serve.</div><div dir=3D"l=
tr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">JM</div><div id=3D"ydp105ad43=
eyiv5073565107yqt19337" class=3D"ydp105ad43eyiv5073565107yqt4023728562"><di=
v dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none">On 7 Mar 2026, at 12:35, DAVID MASSEY &lt;=
<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:dave1massey@cs.com"; rel=3D"nofollow" targe=
t=3D"_blank">dave1massey@cs.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=
=3D"none"></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div style=3D"fo=
nt-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:16px;" class=3D"ydp105ad43=
eyiv5073565107ydp28868561yahoo-style-wrap"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">Another gr=
eat history of life at Triumph.&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=
=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">The only thing is there is a need for a li=
ttle explanation regarding one of the buildings in the map of the site.&nbs=
p; Kremlin?!!!</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div class=3D"ydp105ad43e=
yiv5073565107ydp28868561signature"><div style=3D"color:black;font-style:nor=
mal;font-size-adjust:none;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:=
12pt;line-height:normal;font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><div sty=
le=3D"color:black;font-style:normal;font-size-adjust:none;font-weight:norma=
l;font-stretch:normal;font-size:12pt;line-height:normal;font-family:Arial, =
Helvetica, sans-serif;"><div><font size=3D"4">Dave <br clear=3D"none"></fon=
t></div><div><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:b=
lack;"><br clear=3D"none"></span></div><br clear=3D"none"></div></div></div=
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                        On Friday, March 6, 2026 at 09:35:02 AM CST, JOHN M=
ACARTNEY &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:johnbmacartney@gmx.com"; rel=
=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">johnbmacartney@gmx.com</a>&gt; wrote:
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15849"><div><div style=3D"font-family:Verdana;font-size:12.0px;"><div>An an=
ecdote&nbsp;that no Public Relations professional is ever likely to admit t=
o. Enjoy.</div>

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