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Re: [TR] Roadster Factory Christmas day fire

To: dave northrup <dave@ranteer.com>
Subject: Re: [TR] Roadster Factory Christmas day fire
From: Larry Griffin <larrygriffin.nc@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2023 01:16:57 -0500
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Dave, you are a valued member of this list. However, these comments are
speculative. The problems concerning the investment program and the ill
will from those that lost money is understandable. However, Albert is now
the owner of TRF, not his father.

The 3 cars in the showroom were saved by the firefighters before the fire
got to that part of the building.  Albert has worked extremely hard to keep
the business going. If I remember correctly, he had to purchase TRF from
Charles' estate at a value approved by the court. At the 6-pack Trials I
understand he was excited and discussed plans for improvements coming in
2024. His sister's MG was destroyed in the fire along with more cars not in
the showroom area. The value of those three cars saved would be small
compared to the inventory including irreplaceable NOS parts and tooling
patterns, etc. It will be up to the fire marshall to determine the cause of
the fire.

The total loss of TRF is a tragedy that will have a significant effect on
our hobby. I can't imagine how hard this is for Albert and the wonderful
current staff at TRF. They deserve our support, not speculation about what
happened.

On Tue, Dec 26, 2023 at 10:41=E2=80=AFPM dave northrup <dave@ranteer.com> w=
rote:

> Given how the people in the Roadster Factory Investment Program were
> treated after Charles Runyon died, it would not surprise me if this fire
> was deliberate but done in a way that will not arouse suspicion.  I suspe=
ct
> the insurance payout will be much more than the living business would hav=
e
> brought in a sale.  And coincidentally, the really valuable cars were in =
a
> different building and seemed to have survived.
>
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> https://www.tribdem.com/news/roadster-factory-a-total-loss-after-christma=
s-morning-fire-armagh-chief-says/article_9fd287e2-a330-11ee-90de-7319c01644=
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"fon=
t-family:arial,sans-serif">Dave, you are a valued member of this list. Howe=
ver, these comments are speculative. The problems concerning the investment=
 program and the ill will from those that lost money is understandable. How=
ever, Albert is now the owner of TRF, not his father.</div><div class=3D"gm=
ail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif"><br></div><div class=3D=
"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif">The 3 cars in the sh=
owroom were saved by the firefighters before the fire got to that part of t=
he building.=C2=A0 Albert has worked extremely hard to keep the business go=
ing. If I remember correctly, he had to purchase TRF from Charles&#39; esta=
te at a value approved by the court. At the 6-pack Trials I understand he w=
as excited and discussed plans for improvements coming in 2024. His sister&=
#39;s MG was destroyed in the fire along with more cars not in the showroom=
 area. The value of those three cars saved would be small compared to the i=
nventory including irreplaceable NOS parts and tooling patterns, etc. It wi=
ll be up to the fire marshall to determine the cause of the fire.</div><div=
 class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif"><br></div><=
div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif">The tota=
l loss of TRF is a tragedy that will have a significant effect on our hobby=
. I can&#39;t imagine how hard this is for Albert and the wonderful current=
 staff at TRF. They deserve our support, not speculation about what happene=
d.=C2=A0<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,s=
ans-serif"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:aria=
l,sans-serif"><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">On Tue=
, Dec 26, 2023 at 10:41=E2=80=AFPM dave northrup &lt;</span><a href=3D"mail=
to:dave@ranteer.com" style=3D"font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif" targe=
t=3D"_blank">dave@ranteer.com</a><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,Helvetica=
,sans-serif">&gt; wrote:</span><br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><=
blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-l=
eft:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>





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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Given how the people in the Roadster Factory Investm=
ent Program were treated after Charles Runyon died, it would not surprise m=
e if this fire was deliberate but done in a way that will not arouse suspic=
ion.=C2=A0 I suspect the insurance payout
 will be much more than the living business would have brought in a sale.=
=C2=A0 And coincidentally, the really valuable cars were in a different bui=
lding and seemed to have survived.
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top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0in 0in">
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt"><a href=3D"https://ww=
w.tribdem.com/news/roadster-factory-a-total-loss-after-christmas-morning-fi=
re-armagh-chief-says/article_9fd287e2-a330-11ee-90de-7319c0164473.html" tar=
get=3D"_blank">https://www.tribdem.com/news/roadster-factory-a-total-loss-a=
fter-christmas-morning-fire-armagh-chief-says/article_9fd287e2-a330-11ee-90=
de-7319c0164473.html</a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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