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I love my Triumph. It scratches the itch and satisfies all my classic car =
needs, but I have to say, my Tesla Model Y is a kick to drive. We all know =
about the quarter mile and 0-60 performance they bring. What I didn't =
anticipate is the lag free throttle response. There's no downshifting, or =
delays in the fuel map, or getting on the cam. It's now! The acceleration =
is instant. I find myself getting into trouble when I get back into an ICE.=
I mash the throttle expecting instant acceleration but it's not there. The=
guy is now on my bumper; whereas, with the tesla I'm way out in front. =
It's a different driving experience and very satisfying!
David Brady
'68 TR250
CD8124L
-----Original Message-----
From: David Friedlander <forzion7@gmail.com>
Sent: Jul 23, 2023 6:27 PM
To: Michael Marr <mmarr@albiontechnical.com>
Cc: Listers <triumphs@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] Future Triumph?
I’m thinking, as others have said, that EV’s are still in the =
relative infancy. The ‘boom days’ for EV’s will come, =
IMHO, when a significant breakthrough in battery technology occurs. That is=
, when battery science allows for rapid recharge, long life and when =
cheap(er) battery-pack replacements are possible. The company that develops=
THAT breakthrough battery tech, will revolutionize not only EV’s but=
many other battery-dependent devices….
=20
Dave
On Sun, Jul 23, 2023 at 5:18 PM Michael Marr <mmarr@albiontechnical.com =
(mailto:mmarr@albiontechnical.com)> wrote:
I’m surprised we have not seen a law requiring EVs to be preceded on =
their journey by a man with a red flag…=20
Mike
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 23, 2023, at 07:45, DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com =
(mailto:dave1massey@cs.com)> wrote:
All this EV bashing reminds me of the picture of the Model T being pulled =
out of the mud but a farmer and a team of horses and the farmer thinking =
all along "These things will never catch on."
=20
Anyone who expects a new technology to catch on with a straight line growth=
curve is not being realistic. There are many supply chain and =
infrastructure issues that need to be worked out and this is a chicken/egg =
relationship between these issues and EV acceptance. Heck, in the early =
days of gas-powered cars drivers had to stop at the local dry-goods store =
and buy "cleaning solvent" to power their cars.
=20
EV's have many fewer moving parts and hence are more reliable and, except =
for the battery, are less expensive to build. And battery technology is =
evolving as we speak.
=20
But back to the topic at hand. This new "Triumph" resembles the TR3 in the=
same manner that a Picasso painting resembles reality. Yeah, some of the =
elements are there but they are not coherent. The styling does not inspire=
me, but that is just my opinion, for what it's worth.
=20
Dave=20
=20
=20
=20
On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 10:07:28 PM CDT, Michael Marr =
<mmarr@albiontechnical.com (mailto:mmarr@albiontechnical.com)> wrote:
=20
=20
Hmmm. Not exactly “no go”, or “EVs are piling up on =
dealer lots.”Michael Marr=20
Mobile: 630-202-0065
=20
Sent from my iPad
On Jul 22, 2023, at 18:48, dave northrup <dave@ranteer.com =
(mailto:dave@ranteer.com)> wrote:
EV sales have peaked
https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/personalfinance/2023/05/08/ev-sales-20=
23-slowing/70188358007/
From: Michael Marr <mmarr@albiontechnical.com (mailto:mmarr@albiontechnical=
.com)>Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2023 4:01:34 PMTo: dave northrupCc: =
ListersSubject: Re: [TR] Future Triumph?=20
Really? What’s your source for that little nugget?=20
Here’s another viewpoint…
=20
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Demand for electric cars is booming, with sales expected to leap 35% this =
year after a record-breaking 2022 - News - IEA (https://www.iea.=
org/news/demand-for-electric-cars-is-booming-with-sales-expected-to-leap-35=
-this-year-after-a-record-breaking-2022)
iea.org (https://www.iea.org/news/demand-for-electric-cars-is-booming-with-=
sales-expected-to-leap-35-this-year-after-a-record-breaking-2022)
Michael Marr=20
Mobile: 630-202-0065
=20
Sent from my iPad
On Jul 22, 2023, at 14:52, dave northrup <dave@ranteer.com =
(mailto:dave@ranteer.com)> wrote:
=20
Despite what the Biden administration wants, electric cars are a no go.
EVs are piling up on dealer lots as consumers are correctly rejecting them
From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net (mailto:triumphs-bounces@au=
tox.team.net)> On Behalf Of TedSent: Saturday, July 22, 2023 11:15 AMTo: =
Mark Bradakis <mark@bradakis.com (mailto:mark@bradakis.com)>Cc: Listers =
<triumphs@autox.team.net (mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net)>Subject: Re: [TR]=
Future Triumph?
Great to see & thanks for sharing the concept's evolution from Makkina =
with BMW.
Will be interesting to see if BMW hits to the e-go button.
On Sat, Jul 22, 2023, 11:13 AM Mark Bradakis <mark@bradakis.com =
(mailto:mark@bradakis.com)> wrote:
First off, had a power outage yesterday that had the servers off the air =
for a few hours. All is back again, bits should be flowing.And what do you=
make of this concept car? If you drink enough gin and tonics and squint =
just right, you might see the TR2/3 influence. But those wheels!mjb.** =
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<div style=3D"color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12p=
t"><p style=3D"margin: 0.1rem 0; line-height: 1.0;">I love my Triumph. It =
scratches the itch and satisfies all my classic car needs, but I have to =
say, my Tesla Model Y is a kick to drive. We all know about the quarter =
mile and 0-60 performance they bring. What I didn't anticipate is the lag =
free throttle response. There's no downshifting, or delays in the fuel map,=
or getting on the cam. It's now! The acceleration is instant. I find =
myself getting into trouble when I get back into an ICE. I mash the =
throttle expecting instant acceleration but it's not there. The guy is now =
on my bumper; whereas, with the tesla I'm way out in front. It's a =
different driving experience and very satisfying!</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0.1rem 0; line-height: 1.0;"> </p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0.1rem 0; line-height: 1.0;">David Brady</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0.1rem 0; line-height: 1.0;">'68 TR250</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0.1rem 0; line-height: 1.0;">CD8124L</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0.1rem 0; line-height: 1.0;"> </p>
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solid #aaa; box-sizing: border-box; padding: 10px 0 10px 15px; margin: =
0;">
<p>-----Original Message-----<br>From: David Friedlander <forzion7@gmail=
.com><br>Sent: Jul 23, 2023 6:27 PM<br>To: Michael Marr =
<mmarr@albiontechnical.com><br>Cc: Listers <triumphs@autox.team.=
net><br>Subject: Re: [TR] Future Triumph?</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0.1rem 0; line-height: 1.0;"> </p>
<div dir=3D"auto">I=E2=80=99m thinking, as others have said, that =
EV=E2=80=99s are still in the relative infancy. The =E2=80=98boom =
days=E2=80=99 for EV=E2=80=99s will come, IMHO, when a significant =
breakthrough in battery technology occurs. That is, when battery science =
allows for rapid recharge, long life and when cheap(er) battery-pack =
replacements are possible. The company that develops THAT breakthrough =
battery tech, will revolutionize not only EV=E2=80=99s but many other =
battery-dependent devices=E2=80=A6.</div>
<div dir=3D"auto"> </div>
<div dir=3D"auto">Dave</div>
<div><br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">
<div class=3D"gmail_attr" dir=3D"ltr">On Sun, Jul 23, 2023 at 5:18 PM =
Michael Marr <<a href=3D"mailto:mmarr@albiontechnical.=
com">mmarr@albiontechnical.com</a>> wrote:</div>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; =
border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; padding-left: 1ex; =
border-left-color: #cccccc;">
<div dir=3D"auto">I=E2=80=99m surprised we have not seen a law requiring =
EVs to be preceded on their journey by a man with a red flag=E2=80=A6
<div> </div>
<div>Mike<br><br>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
<blockquote>On Jul 23, 2023, at 07:45, DAVID MASSEY <<a =
href=3D"mailto:dave1massey@cs.com"; target=3D"_blank" =
rel=3D"noopener">dave1massey@cs.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></blockquote>
</div>
<blockquote>
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div style=3D"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">
<div style=3D"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;">
<div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;">All =
this EV bashing reminds me of the picture of the Model T being pulled out =
of the mud but a farmer and a team of horses and the farmer thinking all =
along "These things will never catch on."</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,=
sans-serif;"> </div>
<div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;">Anyone =
who expects a new technology to catch on with a straight line growth curve =
is not being realistic. There are many supply chain and =
infrastructure issues that need to be worked out and this is a chicken/egg =
relationship between these issues and EV acceptance. Heck, in the =
early days of gas-powered cars drivers had to stop at the local dry-goods =
store and buy "cleaning solvent" to power their cars.</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,=
sans-serif;"> </div>
<div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;">EV's =
have many fewer moving parts and hence are more reliable and, except for =
the battery, are less expensive to build. And battery technology is =
evolving as we speak.</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,=
sans-serif;"> </div>
<div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;">But =
back to the topic at hand. This new "Triumph" resembles the TR3 in =
the same manner that a Picasso painting resembles reality. Yeah, some of =
the elements are there but they are not coherent. The styling does =
not inspire me, but that is just my opinion, for what it's worth.</div>
<div style=3D"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"> </div>
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<div style=3D"font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; font-stretch: =
normal; font-size: 12pt; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial,Helvetica,=
sans-serif; font-size-adjust: none; color: black;">
<div style=3D"font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; font-stretch: =
normal; font-size: 12pt; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial,Helvetica,=
sans-serif; font-size-adjust: none; color: black;">
<div style=3D"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"><span =
style=3D"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; color: #000000; =
font-size: large;">Dave <br></span></div>
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style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: sans-serif; color: =
black;"> </span></div>
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font-size: 13px; color: #26282a;">
<div style=3D"font-family: 'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;">On=
Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 10:07:28 PM CDT, Michael Marr <<a =
style=3D"font-family: 'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;" =
href=3D"mailto:mmarr@albiontechnical.com"; target=3D"_blank" =
rel=3D"noopener">mmarr@albiontechnical.com</a>> wrote:</div>
<div style=3D"font-family: 'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,=
sans-serif;"> </div>
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sans-serif;"> </div>
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<div id=3D"m_-4098356278704906929ydp522f7509yiv6716051637" =
style=3D"font-family: 'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;">
<div style=3D"font-family: 'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,=
sans-serif;">Hmmm. Not exactly =E2=80=9Cno go=E2=80=9D, or =
=E2=80=9CEVs are piling up on dealer lots.=E2=80=9D<br clear=3D"none"><br =
clear=3D"none">
<div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-family: 'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,=
sans-serif;">Michael Marr<br clear=3D"none">
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<div style=3D"font-family: 'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,=
sans-serif;"> </div>
<div style=3D"font-family: 'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,=
sans-serif;">Mobile: 630-202-0065</div>
<div style=3D"font-family: 'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,=
sans-serif;"> </div>
<div style=3D"font-family: 'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,=
sans-serif;">Sent from my iPad</div>
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sans-serif;"><br clear=3D"none">
<blockquote style=3D"font-family: 'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,=
sans-serif;">On Jul 22, 2023, at 18:48, dave northrup <<a =
style=3D"font-family: 'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;" =
href=3D"mailto:dave@ranteer.com"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener">dave@ra=
nteer.com</a>> wrote:<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"></blockquote>=
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sans-serif;">
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er" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri,Helvetica,=
sans-serif; color: #000000;">
<p style=3D"font-family: Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;">EV sales have =
peaked</p>
<p style=3D"font-family: Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;"> </p>
<p style=3D"font-family: Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;"><a =
id=3D"m_-4098356278704906929ydp522f7509yiv6716051637LPlnk263632" =
style=3D"font-family: Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;" href=3D"https://www.=
usatoday.com/story/money/personalfinance/2023/05/08/ev-sales-2023-slowing/7=
0188358007/" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow noopener" =
shape=3D"rect">https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/personalfinance/2023/05=
/08/ev-sales-2023-slowing/70188358007/</a></p>
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dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-family: 'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,=
sans-serif;"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif; color: #000000;"><strong style=3D"font-family: Calibri,=
sans-serif;">From:</strong> Michael Marr <<a style=3D"font-family: =
Calibri,sans-serif;" href=3D"mailto:mmarr@albiontechnical.com"; =
target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener">mmarr@albiontechnical.com</a>><br =
clear=3D"none"><strong style=3D"font-family: Calibri,=
sans-serif;">Sent:</strong> Saturday, July 22, 2023 4:01:34 PM<br =
clear=3D"none"><strong style=3D"font-family: Calibri,=
sans-serif;">To:</strong> dave northrup<br clear=3D"none"><strong =
style=3D"font-family: Calibri,sans-serif;">Cc:</strong> Listers<br =
clear=3D"none"><strong style=3D"font-family: Calibri,=
sans-serif;">Subject:</strong> Re: [TR] Future Triumph?</span>
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sans-serif;"> </div>
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<div style=3D"font-family: 'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,=
sans-serif;">Really? What=E2=80=99s your source for that little =
nugget?
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sans-serif;"> </div>
<div style=3D"font-family: 'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,=
sans-serif;">Here=E2=80=99s another viewpoint=E2=80=A6</div>
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sans-serif;">On Jul 22, 2023, at 14:52, dave northrup <<a =
style=3D"font-family: 'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;" =
href=3D"mailto:dave@ranteer.com"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener">dave@ra=
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<p style=3D"font-family: 'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,=
sans-serif;">Despite what the Biden administration wants, electric cars are=
a no go.</p>
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sans-serif;"> </p>
<p style=3D"font-family: 'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;">EVs =
are piling up on dealer lots as consumers are correctly rejecting them</p>
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sans-serif;"><strong style=3D"font-family: 'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial=
,sans-serif;">From:</strong> Triumphs <<a style=3D"font-family: =
'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;" href=3D"mailto:triumphs-bounc=
es@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener">triumphs-bounces@auto=
x.team.net</a>> <strong style=3D"font-family: 'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica=
,Arial,sans-serif;">On Behalf Of </strong>Ted<br clear=3D"none"><strong =
style=3D"font-family: 'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,=
sans-serif;">Sent:</strong> Saturday, July 22, 2023 11:15 AM<br =
clear=3D"none"><strong style=3D"font-family: 'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,=
Arial,sans-serif;">To:</strong> Mark Bradakis <<a style=3D"font-family: =
'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;" href=3D"mailto:mark@bradakis.=
com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener">mark@bradakis.com</a>><br =
clear=3D"none"><strong style=3D"font-family: 'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,=
Arial,sans-serif;">Cc:</strong> Listers <<a style=3D"font-family: =
'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;" href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox=
.team.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener">triumphs@autox.team.=
net</a>><br clear=3D"none"><strong style=3D"font-family: 'Helvetica =
Neue',Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;">Subject:</strong> Re: [TR] Future =
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<p style=3D"font-family: 'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,=
sans-serif;">Great to see & thanks for sharing the concept's evolution =
from Makkina with BMW.</p>
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<p style=3D"margin-bottom: 12pt; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,=
Arial,sans-serif;">Will be interesting to see if BMW hits to the e-go =
button.</p>
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Sat, Jul 22, 2023, 11:13 AM Mark Bradakis <<a style=3D"font-family: =
'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;" href=3D"mailto:mark@bradakis.=
com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow noopener" shape=3D"rect">mark@bradak=
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<p style=3D"font-family: 'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,=
sans-serif;">First off, had a power outage yesterday that had the servers =
off the air <br clear=3D"none">for a few hours. All is back again, =
bits should be flowing.<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">And what do =
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