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Re: [TR] Speedo Conversion

To: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" <tjwakeman@gmail.com>, "triumphs@autox.team.net" <triumphs@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] Speedo Conversion
From: Bob Danielson <75tr6@tr6.danielsonfamily.org>
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2023 14:10:03 -0400
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I=E2=80=99ve heard the GPS tunnel argument before and I have to chuckle eve=
ry time=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6 How often do you drive through a tunnel? I can sa=
fely say the TR6 has never been in a tunnel in my  26 years of ownership=E2=
=80=A6..oops=E2=80=A6 I take that back=E2=80=A6 it has gone though the tunn=
el in New Haven that=E2=80=99s about =C2=BD mile and we survived. . Why do =
you need the speedo in a tunnel? You usually can only go as fast as the guy=
 in front of you and tunnel speeds typically drop about 10 mph as soon as f=
olks get in one. I=E2=80=99m surprised you don=E2=80=99t know your speed by=
 looking at your tach. If you do go through a tunnel, how long is it? 2 or =
3 miles perhaps. You can=E2=80=99t live without your speedo for 3 miles? An=
d again I say=E2=80=A6 look at your tach. Let=E2=80=99s face it, the tunnel=
 argument is weak at best. =20

Bob Danielson
TR6 Interior Panels, Boot Covers and Fender Blankets
http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/PanelBootSales1.htm

From: TeriAnn J. Wakeman
Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2023 12:52 PM
To: triumphs@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] Speedo Conversion

On 6/28/23 4:47 AM, auprichard uprichard.net wrote:
I have toyed wit the idea of a GPS conversion =E2=80=93 as you say, they ar=
e very accurate =E2=80=93 but I didn=E2=80=99t like the idea of the speedo =
dropping to zero if I drove through a tunnel.
I have a VDO GPS speedometer in my 1960 Land Rover. How well it works depen=
ds on how much of the sky the sender can see. And yes, a road lined by tall=
 trees with narrows the sensor's view of the sky keeps it from working unle=
ss there is a satellite in the open space. I didn't want to drill a hole in=
 my roof or compromise door/windscreen seals so mounted mine on the windscr=
een in front of the rear view mirror. So a satellite needs to be in front o=
f me for the GPS to work. How well a GPS speedo works is determined by how =
much sky it can see. My mounting it inside on the windscreen I severely lim=
ited what my sensor can see.
On the other hand, the GPS has allowed me to determine speed by watching th=
e tach, so when my GPS cannot see a sat, I look at the tach to determine my=
 speed.
TeriAnn
=C2=A0
Your gauges look great =E2=80=93 I have just ordered a set of magnolia gaug=
es with leds from West Valley.
=C2=A0
Andrew Uprichard
Jackson, MI
=C2=A0
From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Bob Danielson
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2023 8:27 PM
To: jhmdds@aol.com; triumphs@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] Speedo Conversion
=C2=A0
One of the projects I never documented on my web site was the conversion of=
 my tach to electronic and my speedo to GPS back in 2013. I sent both stock=
 gauges to Morris at West Valley and he not only converted them but he had =
his =E2=80=9Cartist=E2=80=9D repaint the faces Magnolia.=C2=A0 The speedo n=
ow has GPS innards, a power lead and an antenna (hidden under the ashtray).=
 I=E2=80=99ve tracked the speed against both my Garmin GPS and Waze and it=
=E2=80=99s spot on perfect. The beauty of a GPS speedo is there=E2=80=99s n=
o need for a tranny cable and it doesn=E2=80=99t care about the rear end ra=
tio or your tire size=E2=80=A6.. it just tracks you in real time.
=C2=A0
Bob Danielson
TR6 Interior Panels, Boot Covers and Fender Blankets
http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/PanelBootSales1.htm
=C2=A0
From: jhmdds@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2023 10:37 AM
To: triumphs@autox.team.net
Subject: [TR] Speedo Conversion
=C2=A0
"
Hi All,
=C2=A0
I'm looking for recommendations for converting the speedometer on my '75 TR=
6 with the Toyota 5 speed transmission to an electronic style. =C2=A0Altern=
atively I'm looking for a 90 degree drive angle connector from the transmis=
sion to the speedo cable. =C2=A0
=C2=A0
Thanks for the help,
=C2=A0
James Maddox
")
=C2=A0


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=80=99ve heard the GPS tunnel argument before and I have to chuckle every t=
ime=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6 How often do you drive through a tunnel? I can safely=
 say the TR6 has never been in a tunnel in my=C2=A0 26 years of ownership=
=E2=80=A6..oops=E2=80=A6 I take that back=E2=80=A6 it has gone though the t=
unnel in New Haven that=E2=80=99s about =C2=BD mile and we survived. . Why =
do you need the speedo in a tunnel? You usually can only go as fast as the =
guy in front of you and tunnel speeds typically drop about 10 mph as soon a=
s folks get in one. I=E2=80=99m surprised you don=E2=80=99t know your speed=
 by looking at your tach. If you do go through a tunnel, how long is it? 2 =
or 3 miles perhaps. You can=E2=80=99t live without your speedo for 3 miles?=
 And again I say=E2=80=A6 look at your tach. Let=E2=80=99s face it, the tun=
nel argument is weak at best. =C2=A0</p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o=
:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Bob Danielson<br>TR6 Interior Panels, Boot Cove=
rs and Fender Blankets<br>http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/PanelBootSales1.ht=
m</p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div style=3D'mso-element:pa=
ra-border-div;border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'border:none;padding:0in'><b>From: </=
b><a href=3D"mailto:tjwakeman@gmail.com";>TeriAnn J. Wakeman</a><br><b>Sent:=
 </b>Wednesday, June 28, 2023 12:52 PM<br><b>To: </b><a href=3D"mailto:triu=
mphs@autox.team.net">triumphs@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [TR=
] Speedo Conversion</p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div=
><p class=3DMsoNormal>On 6/28/23 4:47 AM, auprichard uprichard.net wrote:<o=
:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0p=
t'><p class=3DMsoNormal>I have toyed wit the idea of a GPS conversion =E2=
=80=93 as you say, they are very accurate =E2=80=93 but I didn=E2=80=99t li=
ke the idea of the speedo dropping to zero if I drove through a tunnel.<o:p=
></o:p></p></blockquote><p>I have a VDO GPS speedometer in my 1960 Land Rov=
er. How well it works depends on how much of the sky the sender can see. An=
d yes, a road lined by tall trees with narrows the sensor's view of the sky=
 keeps it from working unless there is a satellite in the open space. I did=
n't want to drill a hole in my roof or compromise door/windscreen seals so =
mounted mine on the windscreen in front of the rear view mirror. So a satel=
lite needs to be in front of me for the GPS to work. How well a GPS speedo =
works is determined by how much sky it can see. My mounting it inside on th=
e windscreen I severely limited what my sensor can see.</p><p>On the other =
hand, the GPS has allowed me to determine speed by watching the tach, so wh=
en my GPS cannot see a sat, I look at the tach to determine my speed.</p><p=
>TeriAnn</p><blockquote style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p c=
lass=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Your gauges look=
 great =E2=80=93 I have just ordered a set of magnolia gauges with leds fro=
m West Valley.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p c=
lass=3DMsoNormal>Andrew Uprichard<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Jackso=
n, MI<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><div><div sty=
le=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'=
><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Triumphs <a href=3D"mailto:triumphs-boun=
ces@autox.team.net">&lt;triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net&gt;</a> <b>On Behal=
f Of </b>Bob Danielson<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, June 27, 2023 8:27 PM<br><b=
>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:jhmdds@aol.com";>jhmdds@aol.com</a>; <a href=3D"m=
ailto:triumphs@autox.team.net">triumphs@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Subject:</=
b> Re: [TR] Speedo Conversion<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=3DMsoNorma=
l>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>One of the projects I never doc=
umented on my web site was the conversion of my tach to electronic and my s=
peedo to GPS back in 2013. I sent both stock gauges to Morris at West Valle=
y and he not only converted them but he had his =E2=80=9Cartist=E2=80=9D re=
paint the faces Magnolia.&nbsp; The speedo now has GPS innards, a power lea=
d and an antenna (hidden under the ashtray). I=E2=80=99ve tracked the speed=
 against both my Garmin GPS and Waze and it=E2=80=99s spot on perfect. The =
beauty of a GPS speedo is there=E2=80=99s no need for a tranny cable and it=
 doesn=E2=80=99t care about the rear end ratio or your tire size=E2=80=A6..=
 it just tracks you in real time.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;=
<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Bob Danielson<br>TR6 Interior Panels, B=
oot Covers and Fender Blankets<br><a href=3D"http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org=
/PanelBootSales1.htm">http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/PanelBootSales1.htm</a=
><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><div style=3D'bor=
der:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=
=3DMsoNormal><b>From: </b><a href=3D"mailto:jhmdds@aol.com";>jhmdds@aol.com<=
/a><br><b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, June 27, 2023 10:37 AM<br><b>To: </b><a href=
=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net";>triumphs@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Subje=
ct: </b>[TR] Speedo Conversion<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal>&nb=
sp;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>&quot;<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p cl=
ass=3DMsoNormal>Hi All,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp=
;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I'm looking for recommendat=
ions for converting the speedometer on my '75 TR6 with the Toyota 5 speed t=
ransmission to an electronic style. &nbsp;Alternatively I'm looking for a 9=
0 degree drive angle connector from the transmission to the speedo cable. &=
nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></=
div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Thanks for the help,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div=
><p class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>=
James Maddox<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal>&quot;)<o:p></o=
:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><br><=
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