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Re: [TR] How to Re-align splines in OD to mate with transmission shaft?

To: "aribertn@gmail.com" <aribertn@gmail.com>, "triumphs@autox.team.net" <triumphs@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] How to Re-align splines in OD to mate with transmission shaft?
From: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com>
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2023 11:35:15 +0000 (UTC)
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 What model overdrive is it.=C2=A0 I have figured out the A-type and the J-=
type.=C2=A0 The J-type has an intermediate piece between the OD and the tra=
nsmission that gets attached to the OD before being attached to the trans.=
=C2=A0 Either way the sun gear and the sprag clutch splines must be aligned=
 with the cone clutch in the neutral position.=C2=A0 If it is in contact wi=
th either the ring gear or the brake ring the sun gear will not move and it=
 must so you can align it with the sprag clutch.=C2=A0 Once that is done yo=
u can install the springs and the intermediate piece on the J-type and Bob'=
s you uncle.=C2=A0=20

The A-type is more tricky.=C2=A0 Since there is no intermediate piece to ho=
ld the clutch in place it will drop when you invert it to drop it onto the =
transmission and the bevel cut gears on the planetary gear set will cause t=
he clutch to rotate out of position.=C2=A0 Of course the solution is to not=
 invert the OD but to invert the transmission and lower IT onto the OD unit=
.=C2=A0 It's a little counter-intuitive but it works.
I am not familiar with the D-type but if that is what you have it is probab=
ly similar to either the A-type or the D-type.
=20
Dave=20


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-----Original Message-----
From: aribert neumann <aribertn@gmail.com>
To: triumphs@autox.team.net
Sent: Thu, Mar 30, 2023 10:09 pm
Subject: [TR] How to Re-align splines in OD to mate with transmission shaft=
?

What is the trick to get the two sets of OD splines completely aligned?=C2=
=A0 =C2=A0My Bentley manual (GT6) says to use a long screwdriver - fat chan=
ce.=C2=A0 =C2=A0I even milled a piece of steel flat stock to mimic two oppo=
sing splines of the trans mainshaft with a taper/lead-in on the tip.=C2=A0 =
=C2=A0I have gently tapped the flat stock but the second set of splines is =
still offset=C2=A0 by about 1/16 of an inch and does not want to rotate int=
o alignment.=C2=A0 =C2=A0I did not do any service of the OD other than to r=
inse and flush out the inside of the OD - not sure how the splines became m=
isaligned.
I've seen one video where someone=C2=A0loosens the bolts that hold the two =
aluminum casting housings sandwiched to the steel component to take the spr=
ing load off of the asm and make it easier to rotate the splines into align=
ment.=C2=A0 =C2=A0My OD has been nice and dry and I really do not want to c=
reate a potential oil leak path by partially separating=C2=A0these three co=
mponents if I do not need=C2=A0to.TIA - off in digest mode.** triumphs@auto=
x.team.net **

Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs=C2=A0 http://www.team.net/a=
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<div> <font size="3">What model overdrive is it.&nbsp; I have figured out the 
A-type and the J-type.&nbsp; The J-type has an intermediate piece between the 
OD and the transmission that gets attached to the OD before being attached to 
the trans.&nbsp; Either way the sun gear and the sprag clutch splines must be 
aligned with the cone clutch in the neutral position.&nbsp; If it is in contact 
with either the ring gear or the brake ring the sun gear will not move and it 
must so you can align it with the sprag clutch.&nbsp; Once that is done you can 
install the springs and the intermediate piece on the J-type and Bob's you 
uncle.&nbsp; <br>
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<div><font size="3">The A-type is more tricky.&nbsp; Since there is no 
intermediate piece to hold the clutch in place it will drop when you invert it 
to drop it onto the transmission and the bevel cut gears on the planetary gear 
set will cause the clutch to rotate out of position.&nbsp; Of course the 
solution is to not invert the OD but to invert the transmission and lower IT 
onto the OD unit.&nbsp; It's a little counter-intuitive but it 
works.</font></div>

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</font></div>

<div><font size="3">I am not familiar with the D-type but if that is what you 
have it is probably similar to either the A-type or the D-type.<br>
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<div><font size="4">Dave <br>
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size="2">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: aribert neumann &lt;aribertn@gmail.com&gt;<br>
To: triumphs@autox.team.net<br>
Sent: Thu, Mar 30, 2023 10:09 pm<br>
Subject: [TR] How to Re-align splines in OD to mate with transmission shaft?<br>
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<div dir="ltr">What is the trick to get the two sets of OD splines completely 
aligned?&nbsp; &nbsp;My Bentley manual (GT6) says to use a long screwdriver - 
fat chance.&nbsp; &nbsp;I even milled a piece of steel flat stock to mimic two 
opposing splines of the trans mainshaft with a taper/lead-in on the tip.&nbsp; 
&nbsp;I have gently tapped the flat stock but the second set of splines is 
still offset&nbsp; by about 1/16 of an inch and does not want to rotate into 
alignment.&nbsp; &nbsp;I did not do any service of the OD other than to rinse 
and flush out the inside of the OD - not sure how the splines became misaligned.
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<div>I've seen one video where someone&nbsp;loosens the bolts that hold the two 
aluminum casting housings sandwiched to the steel component to take the spring 
load off of the asm and make it easier to rotate the splines into 
alignment.&nbsp; &nbsp;My OD has been nice and dry and I really do not want to 
create a potential oil leak path by partially separating&nbsp;these three 
components if I do not need&nbsp;to.</div>

<div>TIA - off in digest mode.</div>
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