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Man, I recently jumped over a few big hurdles to transfer the title on my d=
ecades long dormant TR2 before beginning disassembly for restoration. Read=
ing this thread got me thinking, and I was close to the paperwork, so I too=
k a quick look. I was surprised to see an 0 instead of an O on the new pap=
er work. Darn. It is listed and an O on all earlier forms. WTF! I hadn'=
t noticed the difference. WTF.
Dave H. =20
Santa Cruz, CA
> On November 7, 2019 at 7:25 PM Randall <tr3driver@ca.rr.com> wrote:
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> I suspect it depends a lot on which clerk you get at the DMV. There =
are a lot of special rules for old cars, which the average clerk doesn=E2=
=80=99t seem to know much about (nor often their supervisor).
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> The TR3A I bought around 1983 was an LO car, but the original paperwo=
rk had the wrong number entirely. Not sure how that happened, but no one n=
oticed for many years until the state started automatically matching insura=
nce policies to registrations. Even then, the DMV didn=E2=80=99t care, it =
was just a hassle having to take in proof of insurance to get my registrati=
on.
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> I finally took them the car, showed the commission plate, and they wr=
ote a new title with -LO on it.
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> More recently, I bought a 56 TR3 that came with California =E2=80=9Cb=
lack plates=E2=80=9D. I wanted to keep the black plates on the car, but th=
e DMV clerk insisted on writing up the paperwork under the =E2=80=9CYear of=
Manufacture=E2=80=9D provision, which I told her did not apply to my car. =
(Black plates didn=E2=80=99t come out until 1963.} Of course Sacramento d=
enied the application. I went back to the DMV quoting chapter and verse fr=
om the vehicle code, spoke to the branch supervisor and waited several hour=
s before they finally admitted they did not know how to handle my applicati=
on. They eventually let me fill out a blank =E2=80=9Cstatement of facts=E2=
=80=9D and sent that to Sacramento (who approved my black plates).
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> The federal standards defining =E2=80=9CVIN=E2=80=9D didn=E2=80=99t c=
ome out until 1981, so they don=E2=80=99t apply to our cars. That=E2=80=99=
s why we don=E2=80=99t have 17 letters and numbers, and can have =E2=80=98O=
=E2=80=99.
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Man, I recently jumped over a few big hurdles to transfer the title on m=
y decades long dormant TR2 before beginning disassembly for restoration.&nb=
sp; Reading this thread got me thinking, and I was close to the paperwork, =
so I took a quick look. I was surprised to see an 0 instead of an O o=
n the new paper work. Darn. It is listed and an O on all earlie=
r forms. WTF! I hadn't noticed the difference. WTF.
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Dave H.
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On November 7, 2019 at 7:25 PM Randall <tr3driver@ca.rr.com> wrote=
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<p class=3D"ox-8bd2e0dd99-MsoNormal">I suspect it depends a lot on whic=
h clerk you get at the DMV. There are a lot of special rules for old =
cars, which the average clerk doesn=E2=80=99t seem to know much about (nor =
often their supervisor).</p>
<p class=3D"ox-8bd2e0dd99-MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class=3D"ox-8bd2e0dd99-MsoNormal">The TR3A I bought around 1983 was =
an LO car, but the original paperwork had the wrong number entirely. =
Not sure how that happened, but no one noticed for many years until the sta=
te started automatically matching insurance policies to registrations. =
; Even then, the DMV didn=E2=80=99t care, it was just a hassle having to ta=
ke in proof of insurance to get my registration.</p>
<p class=3D"ox-8bd2e0dd99-MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class=3D"ox-8bd2e0dd99-MsoNormal">I finally took them the car, showe=
d the commission plate, and they wrote a new title with -LO on it.</p>
<p class=3D"ox-8bd2e0dd99-MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class=3D"ox-8bd2e0dd99-MsoNormal">More recently, I bought a 56 TR3 t=
hat came with California =E2=80=9Cblack plates=E2=80=9D. I wanted to =
keep the black plates on the car, but the DMV clerk insisted on writing up =
the paperwork under the =E2=80=9CYear of Manufacture=E2=80=9D provision, wh=
ich I told her did not apply to my car. (Black plates didn=E2=80=99t =
come out until 1963.} Of course Sacramento denied the application. &n=
bsp;I went back to the DMV quoting chapter and verse from the vehicle code,=
spoke to the branch supervisor and waited several hours before they finall=
y admitted they did not know how to handle my application. They event=
ually let me fill out a blank =E2=80=9Cstatement of facts=E2=80=9D and sent=
that to Sacramento (who approved my black plates).</p>
<p class=3D"ox-8bd2e0dd99-MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class=3D"ox-8bd2e0dd99-MsoNormal">The federal standards defining =E2=
=80=9CVIN=E2=80=9D didn=E2=80=99t come out until 1981, so they don=E2=80=99=
t apply to our cars. That=E2=80=99s why we don=E2=80=99t have 17 lett=
ers and numbers, and can have =E2=80=98O=E2=80=99.</p>
<p class=3D"ox-8bd2e0dd99-MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class=3D"ox-8bd2e0dd99-MsoNormal">-- Randall</p>
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