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An agency that records VIN's, doesn't accept a legitimate VIN????
Why am I reminded of the man who had to prove to the Social Security Admini=
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> On November 7, 2019 at 7:43 AM Andrew Uprichard <auprichard@uprichard.net=
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> But you are in Ohio, Randall =E2=80=93 maybe they are more understand=
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> Jackson, Michigan =E2=80=93 where the =E2=80=9Claw=E2=80=9D is: no =
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> From: Reihing, Randall S. [mailto:Randall.Reihing@utoledo.edu]
> Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 7:28 AM
> To: Brian Kemp; Andrew Uprichard; 'Triumphs'
> Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [TR] VINs
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> How does changing the "O" to a "0" on the paper title, match the "O" =
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e a title with a VIN that does not match the VIN on the vehicle's riveted m=
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> Sent: Wednesday, November 6, 2019 8:50:45 PM
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> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [TR] VINs
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> My California TR6 title also ends L0 - L zero. I told them it should=
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g. Not worth having an argument with the DMV. The insurance company was f=
ine with whatever the title said.
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> On 11/6/2019 1:13 PM, Andrew Uprichard wrote:
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> > I just went to get a title on a TR which came with a factory ov=
erdrive. The old title appropriately ended =E2=80=9CLO=E2=80=9D, but I was=
told that =E2=80=9COs=E2=80=9D and =E2=80=9CIs=E2=80=9D are no longer acce=
ptable in titles. So I had to change the VIN (on the title) to =E2=80=9CL0=
=E2=80=9D. Then I had to call the insurance company to explain the same st=
ory to them and have them send me a proof of insurance with =E2=80=9CL0=E2=
=80=9D.
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> > Anyone else come across this? Maybe it has been going on for y=
ears: I have 4 cars with overdrive, but this was the first factory one.
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Why am I reminded of the man who had to prove to the Social Security Adm=
inistration that he wasn't dead?
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--Terry Smith
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On November 7, 2019 at 7:43 AM Andrew Uprichard <auprichard@uprichard=
.net> wrote:=20
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<p class=3D"ox-8a1b5f35ad-MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11.0pt; =
color: #1f497d;">That=E2=80=99s the whole point. And there is also th=
e insurance company=E2=80=99s note =E2=80=93 should it have what is on the =
vin plate or what in on the title?\ </span></p>
<p class=3D"ox-8a1b5f35ad-MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11.0pt; =
color: #1f497d;"> </span></p>
<p class=3D"ox-8a1b5f35ad-MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11.0pt; =
color: #1f497d;">But you are in Ohio, Randall =E2=80=93 maybe they are more=
understanding there !!<br><br>Andrew </span></p>
<p class=3D"ox-8a1b5f35ad-MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11.0pt; =
color: #1f497d;">Jackson, Michigan =E2=80=93 where the =E2=80=9Claw=E2=80=
=9D is: no =E2=80=9COs=E2=80=9D on titles </span></p>
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color: #1f497d;"> </span></p>
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3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;">
<p class=3D"ox-8a1b5f35ad-MsoNormal"><strong><span style=3D"font-size=
: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Tahoma','sans-serif';">From:</span></strong><span s=
tyle=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Tahoma','sans-serif';"> Reihing, R=
andall S. [mailto:Randall.Reihing@utoledo.edu] <br><strong>Sent:</strong> T=
hursday, November 7, 2019 7:28 AM<br><strong>To:</strong> Brian Kemp; Andre=
w Uprichard; 'Triumphs'<br><strong>Subject:</strong> Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [TR=
] VINs </span></p>
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<p class=3D"ox-8a1b5f35ad-MsoNormal"> </p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: black;">H=
ow does changing the "O" to a "0" on the paper title, match the "O" o=
n the riveted metal plate still on the car itself? How is it lega=
l to have a title with a VIN that does not match the VIN on the vehicle's&n=
bsp;riveted metal plate? </span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: black;"> =
</span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: black;">R=
andall Reihing </span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: black;">1=
960 TR3A </span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: black;">1=
959 TR3A </span></p>
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5ad-MsoNormal">
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<p class=3D"ox-8a1b5f35ad-MsoNormal"><strong><span style=3D"font-size: =
11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: black;">From:</span></s=
trong><span style=3D"font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'=
; color: black;"> Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> on behal=
f of Brian Kemp <bk13@earthlink.net><br><strong>Sent:</strong> Wednes=
day, November 6, 2019 8:50:45 PM<br><strong>To:</strong> Andrew Uprichard &=
lt;auprichard@uprichard.net>; 'Triumphs' <triumphs@autox.team.net>=
<br><strong>Subject:</strong> [EXTERNAL] Re: [TR] VINs</span></p>
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<p class=3D"ox-8a1b5f35ad-MsoNormal"> </p>
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<p style=3D"margin-bottom: 12.0pt; background: white;" class=3D"ox-8a1=
b5f35ad-MsoNormal">My California TR6 title also ends L0 - L zero. I t=
old them it should be an Oh for Overdrive, but they said I couldn't have an=
Oh and I was wrong. Not worth having an argument with the DMV. =
The insurance company was fine with whatever the title said.<br><br>Brian<=
/p>
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<p style=3D"background: white;" class=3D"ox-8a1b5f35ad-MsoNormal">On =
11/6/2019 1:13 PM, Andrew Uprichard wrote:</p>
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<p style=3D"background: white;" class=3D"ox-8a1b5f35ad-xmsonormal">I=
just went to get a title on a TR which came with a factory overdrive. =
; The old title appropriately ended =E2=80=9CLO=E2=80=9D, but I was told th=
at =E2=80=9COs=E2=80=9D and =E2=80=9CIs=E2=80=9D are no longer acceptable i=
n titles. So I had to change the VIN (on the title) to =E2=80=9CL0=E2=
=80=9D. Then I had to call the insurance company to explain the same =
story to them and have them send me a proof of insurance with =E2=80=9CL0=
=E2=80=9D.</p>
<p style=3D"background: white;" class=3D"ox-8a1b5f35ad-xmsonormal">&=
nbsp;</p>
<p style=3D"background: white;" class=3D"ox-8a1b5f35ad-xmsonormal">A=
nyone else come across this? Maybe it has been going on for years:&nb=
sp; I have 4 cars with overdrive, but this was the first factory one.</p>
<p style=3D"background: white;" class=3D"ox-8a1b5f35ad-xmsonormal">&=
nbsp;</p>
<p style=3D"background: white;" class=3D"ox-8a1b5f35ad-xmsonormal">A=
ndrew Uprichard</p>
<p style=3D"background: white;" class=3D"ox-8a1b5f35ad-xmsonormal">J=
ackson, MI</p>
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