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Re: [TR] Engine stand

To: GLEMON@neb.rr.com, nogera@hotmail.com, Triumphs@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] Engine stand
From: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com>
Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2018 11:28:50 +0000 (UTC)
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 The math says:The cross sectional area of a 5/16 bolt is 0.076 sq in.=C2=
=A0 But the tensile strength of a grade 5 bolt is in the range of 100,000 P=
SI which means a 5/16 bolt will pull apart at about 7,700 lbs.=C2=A0 Liftin=
g a 600 lb engine with four bolts good for 7,000 lbs leaves a pretty genero=
us safety margin.
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Dave=20

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-----Original Message-----
From: GLEMON <GLEMON@neb.rr.com>
To: 'Bob Nogueira' <nogera@hotmail.com>; 'Triumphs list' <Triumphs@autox.te=
am.net>
Sent: Wed, Oct 24, 2018 9:00 pm
Subject: Re: [TR] Engine stand

Don't let these guys make you feel bad about asking the question, freaks me=
 out too.=C2=A0 If you look at the factory manual for a Healey big six they=
 pull it out with a special tool on the valve cover studs, which are not ve=
ry substantial.=C2=A0=C2=A0
I have decided intellectually the 5/16" bolts are not something I need to w=
orry about, but it still looks like a lot of weight held on by some little =
sticks to me.
However, a big six will tilt a small three point engine stand pretty easily=
 if a wheel catches on some kitty litter when you try to push it.
Greg LemonTR250

-----------------------------------------From: "Bob Nogueira"=20

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Cc:=20
Sent: Tuesday October 23 2018 2:15:26PM
Subject: [TR] Engine stand

 I=E2=80=99m about to rebuild my TR 4 engine. I=E2=80=99ve done it three ti=
mes in the past so there=E2=80=99s not much I=E2=80=99m worried about. The =
one thing that freaks me out is suspending the engine on the engine stand b=
y four 5/16 inch bolts. Every time I see it sitting there I freak out that =
the bolts are going to snap and the engine is going to come crashing down.
 Two things I=E2=80=99ve done to relieve my paranoia is add a cross beam on=
 the front so it has four wheels not the original three and keep a two by f=
our between the front of the engine and the leg to carry the weight of the =
suspended engine.
 Two questions, am I being paranoid and should I use grade 5 or grade 8 bol=
ts to fasten the engine to the stand?
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 Thanks for any advise.
=20
 Bob Nogueira=20
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<div> <font size=3D"3">The math says:</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"3">The cross sectional area of a 5/16 bolt is 0.076 sq i=
n.&nbsp; But the tensile strength of a grade 5 bolt is in the range of 100,=
000 PSI which means a 5/16 bolt will pull apart at about 7,700 lbs.&nbsp; L=
ifting a 600 lb engine with four bolts good for 7,000 lbs leaves a pretty g=
enerous safety margin.</font><br>
</div>

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<div style=3D"clear:both"><font size=3D"4">Dave </font><br>
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Original Message-----<br>
From: GLEMON &lt;GLEMON@neb.rr.com&gt;<br>
To: 'Bob Nogueira' &lt;nogera@hotmail.com&gt;; 'Triumphs list' &lt;Triumphs=
@autox.team.net&gt;<br>
Sent: Wed, Oct 24, 2018 9:00 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [TR] Engine stand<br>
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<div>Don't let these guys make you feel bad about asking the question, frea=
ks me out too.&nbsp; If you look at the factory manual for a Healey big six=
 they pull it out with a special tool on the valve cover studs, which are n=
ot very substantial.&nbsp;&nbsp;
<div><br>
</div>

<div>I have decided intellectually the 5/16" bolts are not something I need=
 to worry about, but it still looks like a lot of weight held on by some li=
ttle sticks to me.</div>

<div><br>
</div>

<div>However, a big six will tilt a small three point engine stand pretty e=
asily if a wheel catches on some kitty litter when you try to push it.</div=
>

<div><br>
</div>

<div>Greg Lemon</div>

<div>TR250<br>
<br>

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From: "Bob Nogueira" <br>
<br>

<div> To: "Triumphs list"<br>
Cc: <br>
Sent: Tuesday October 23 2018 2:15:26PM<br>
Subject: [TR] Engine stand<br>
<br>
 I=E2=80=99m about to rebuild my TR 4 engine. I=E2=80=99ve done it three ti=
mes in the past so there=E2=80=99s not much I=E2=80=99m worried about. The =
one thing that freaks me out is suspending the engine on the engine stand b=
y four 5/16 inch bolts. Every time I see it sitting there I freak out that =
the bolts are going to snap and the engine is going to come crashing down.<=
br>

 Two things I=E2=80=99ve done to relieve my paranoia is add a cross beam on=
 the front so it has four wheels not the original three and keep a two by f=
our between the front of the engine and the leg to carry the weight of the =
suspended engine.<br>

 Two questions, am I being paranoid and should I use grade 5 or grade 8 bol=
ts to fasten the engine to the stand?<br>

 <br>

 Thanks for any advise.<br>

 <br>

 Bob Nogueira <br>

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