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Re: [TR] May 6th

To: John Summers <rivers2hills@yahoo.com>, list Triumph <triumphs@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] May 6th
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Date: Sun, 8 May 2016 10:00:04 +0000 (UTC)
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John,

Sorry, but IMO you need to hang onto that rental and start pulling the gear=
box from the TR6.

The low oil theory was a long shot anyway.=C2=A0 Now you've got a clutch th=
at won't release plus FOD in the oil and a stuck fill plug.

Time to pull it apart.



-- Randall






On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 6:45 PM -0700, "John Summers" <rivers2hills@yahoo.co=
m> wrote:










We've all heard the phrase, "well, I've got good news and I've got bad news=
", right. =C2=A0A few weeks agosome one mentioned that maybe the reason my =
TR 6 wouldn't go into any gear while running mightbe because of low oil wit=
hin the transmission. =C2=A0So, he good news is that I was so far under my =
carthat nobody could see a 67 year old man crying. =C2=A0The bad news is fi=
rst that the nut on the side ofthe transmission case had been mis handled s=
o many times that it was nicked and bungled up that no size socketcould get=
 a grip on it. =C2=A0This caused my creative mind to churn and churn,,,,,an=
d churn. =C2=A0I decidedthat the rubber-like tapered re-stoppers I use to r=
ecork my wine bottles, if I drilled a hole into and through one,bought a ha=
nd squeeze siphon from PepBoys, ran the hose from that into the stopper and=
 the other endinto a bottle of oil and squeeze and squeeze until I thought =
the oil level were correct. =C2=A0Of course this would be a trickyoperation=
 what with having to remove the drain bolt. =C2=A0Rubber plugs and oil; jus=
t imagine the possibilities!! =C2=A0Oil came outand into the hose it should=
 have been going out of as well as all over my hand and driveway. =C2=A0I w=
ould say that yesthere was a good possibility the oil was low judging by th=
e small amount on the driveway. =C2=A0Maybe 1/2 to 3/4 cupbefore it turned =
into a drip. =C2=A0Now, how much oil to get it back to the proper level? =
=C2=A0Question #2, do you think=C2=A0that the same fountain pump I used to =
drain the pan under my leaky kitchen drain would have the same easepumping =
oil as it did water? =C2=A0(I guess I could try it first) =C2=A0Ok, along w=
ith oil came what appears to be a 3/8" magnetwith shavings on both ends. =
=C2=A0I'm at a loss on that other than to say it did it's job of collecting=
 fragments of my gears.If the pump idea doesn't work I'm not sure what to d=
o. =C2=A0The fill nut,,,,,I've tried everything and can't get anything clos=
e=C2=A0enough to the base of the nut to really get a good grip. =C2=A0I've =
thought about taking the transmission cover off and=C2=A0coming at it from =
the inside of the "cockpit". =C2=A0Dangit!!! the weather is so nice here in=
 Jacksonville now=C2=A0AND I have to get THIS car on the road because since=
 March 1st we've been driving a rental due to troublewith the '98 Maxima. T=
his has been an up and down day emotionally. =C2=A0Wife disabled 16 years, =
oldest son withthree bulging discs and NO cartilage in one knee,,,,been in =
the E.R. SEVEN times in the last month and the youngerson's 2000 Subaru Imp=
reza in my garage with a blown engine,,,,,,,,,,,,,and my hips are killing m=
e. =C2=A0Might be quickerto just have the car fall on me:))) =C2=A0Not. Sor=
ry that I'm so long winded, you ought to see me on Facebook, or, if it=C2=
=A0is ok with those who run this list you could take a look at my "art" don=
e on computer. It's at:=C2=A0http://www.saatchiart.com/account/artworks/219=
699=C2=A0 Thanks all.





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<html><head></head><body><p dir=3D"auto">John,<br>
Sorry, but IMO you need to hang onto that rental and start pulling the gear=
box from the TR6.<br>
The low oil theory was a long shot anyway.&nbsp; Now you've got a clutch th=
at won't release plus FOD in the oil and a stuck fill plug.<br>
Time to pull it apart.<br></p>
<p dir=3D"auto">-- Randall<br>
</p>
<br><br><br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 6:45 PM -0700, "John Summ=
ers" <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rivers2hills@yahoo.com"; target=
=3D"_blank">rivers2hills@yahoo.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<br>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">




<div dir=3D"3D&quot;ltr&quot;">
<div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue,=
 Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px=
"><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1462582939670_3091">We've all heard the phra=
se, "well, I've got good news and I've got bad news", right. &nbsp;A few we=
eks ago</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1462582939670_3091" dir=3D"ltr">s=
ome one mentioned that maybe the reason my TR 6 wouldn't go into any gear w=
hile running might</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1462582939670_3091" di=
r=3D"ltr">be because of low oil within the transmission. &nbsp;So, he good =
news is that I was so far under my car</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_14=
62582939670_3091" dir=3D"ltr">that nobody could see a 67 year old man cryin=
g. &nbsp;The bad news is first that the nut on the side of</div><div id=3D"=
yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1462582939670_3091" dir=3D"ltr">the transmission case had=
 been mis handled so many times that it was nicked and bungled up that no s=
ize socket</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1462582939670_3091" dir=3D"ltr=
">could get a grip on it. &nbsp;This caused my creative mind to churn and c=
hurn,,,,,and churn. &nbsp;I decided</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_14625=
82939670_3091" dir=3D"ltr">that the rubber-like tapered re-stoppers I use t=
o recork my wine bottles, if I drilled a hole into and through one,</div><d=
iv id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1462582939670_3091" dir=3D"ltr">bought a hand sq=
ueeze siphon from PepBoys, ran the hose from that into the stopper and the =
other end</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1462582939670_3091" dir=3D"ltr"=
>into a bottle of oil and squeeze and squeeze until I thought the oil level=
 were correct. &nbsp;Of course this would be a tricky</div><div id=3D"yui_3=
_16_0_ym19_1_1462582939670_3091" dir=3D"ltr">operation what with having to =
remove the drain bolt. &nbsp;Rubber plugs and oil; just imagine the possibi=
lities!! &nbsp;Oil came out</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1462582939670=
_3091" dir=3D"ltr">and into the hose it should have been going out of as we=
ll as all over my hand and driveway. &nbsp;I would say that yes</div><div i=
d=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1462582939670_3091" dir=3D"ltr">there was a good pos=
sibility the oil was low judging by the small amount on the driveway. &nbsp=
;Maybe 1/2 to 3/4 cup</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1462582939670_3091"=
 dir=3D"ltr">before it turned into a drip. &nbsp;Now, how much oil to get i=
t back to the proper level? &nbsp;Question #2, do you think&nbsp;</div><div=
 id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1462582939670_3091" dir=3D"ltr">that the same foun=
tain pump I used to drain the pan under my leaky kitchen drain would have t=
he same ease</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1462582939670_3091" dir=3D"l=
tr">pumping oil as it did water? &nbsp;(I guess I could try it first) &nbsp=
;Ok, along with oil came what appears to be a 3/8" magnet</div><div id=3D"y=
ui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1462582939670_3091" dir=3D"ltr">with shavings on both ends=
. &nbsp;I'm at a loss on that other than to say it did it's job of collecti=
ng fragments of my gears.</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1462582939670_3=
091" dir=3D"ltr">If the pump idea doesn't work I'm not sure what to do. &nb=
sp;The fill nut,,,,,I've tried everything and can't get anything close&nbsp=
;</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1462582939670_3091" dir=3D"ltr">enough =
to the base of the nut to really get a good grip. &nbsp;I've thought about =
taking the transmission cover off and&nbsp;</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19=
_1_1462582939670_3091" dir=3D"ltr">coming at it from the inside of the "coc=
kpit". &nbsp;Dangit!!! the weather is so nice here in Jacksonville now&nbsp=
;</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1462582939670_3091" dir=3D"ltr">AND I h=
ave to get THIS car on the road because since March 1st we've been driving =
a rental due to trouble</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1462582939670_309=
1" dir=3D"ltr">with the '98 Maxima. This has been an up and down day emotio=
nally. &nbsp;Wife disabled 16 years, oldest son with</div><div id=3D"yui_3_=
16_0_ym19_1_1462582939670_3091" dir=3D"ltr">three bulging discs and NO cart=
ilage in one knee,,,,been in the E.R. SEVEN times in the last month and the=
 younger</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1462582939670_3091" dir=3D"ltr">=
son's 2000 Subaru Impreza in my garage with a blown engine,,,,,,,,,,,,,and =
my hips are killing me. &nbsp;Might be quicker</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_y=
m19_1_1462582939670_3091" dir=3D"ltr">to just have the car fall on me:))) &=
nbsp;Not. Sorry that I'm so long winded, you ought to see me on Facebook, o=
r, if it&nbsp;</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1462582939670_3091" dir=3D=
"ltr">is ok with those who run this list you could take a look at my "art" =
done on computer. It's at:&nbsp;<a href=3D"http://www.saatchiart.com/accoun=
t/artworks/219699" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1462582939670_4078">http://www.s=
aatchiart.com/account/artworks/219699</a>&nbsp; Thanks all.</div></div>
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