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To: "Triumph List" <triumphs@autox.team.net>
Subject: Fw: Spitfire starter
From: "Kinderlehrer" <Kinderlehrer@mindspring.com>
Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 18:06:21 -0700
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kinderlehrer" <Kinderlehrer@mindspring.com>
To: "Randall Young" <ryoung@navcomtech.com>; "danvon" <danvon@scripps.edu>;
<triumphs@autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2002 5:52 PM
Subject: Re: Spitfire starter


> Is this starter the same as my TR3? sounds like it from the description
> "turned the bolt on the end with a wrench" and is it really new or
rebuilt?
> If it is,  isn't it not so much a bearing,  as a bushing (Moss part
> number149-400) which is basically a short piece of copper pipe?  If this
> wasn't installed properly by peening it, it really does tend to work
itself
> out pretty quickly, particularly if the end cap isn't on.  A call to BPNW
is
> certainly in order, but if that's the problem, it's a $1.95 part and last
> time I returned something to BPNW I had to pay shipping.  You may even
find
> it lying on the garage floor.  It will slide back in with a little
wiggling
> of the armiture end, just use some lock tite on it.
>
> Bob
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Randall Young" <ryoung@navcomtech.com>
> To: "danvon" <danvon@scripps.edu>; <triumphs@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2002 5:36 PM
> Subject: RE: Spitfire starter
>
>
> > > I thought that the starter might be jamming against the ring gear
> > > so turned
> > > the bolt on the end with a wrench and it not only turned freely
> > > but has what
> > > seems like a lot of play in it (several mm of movement
> > > side-to-side, as if
> > > the bearings are shot).
> > >
> > > I replaced the starter (new Lucas unit from BPN) in October, and
haven't
> > > driven the car much since then (it worked great until a week or so
ago).
> > >
> > > So-is this a known way for the starter to fail?
> >
> > Yup, it's bearings are shot and most likely, the armature is rubbing on
> the
> > pole pieces.  However, there's no way a new unit should've failed that
> fast,
> > I'd have a talk with BPN.
> >
> > >  I am assuming that there
> > > shouldn't be much play in the motor shaft. Also, could i have done
> > > something when installing the new one that caused this-maybe some
> > > kind of mis-alignment?
> >
> > Not likely, IMO.
> >
> > > Finally, if i need to replace this again, any
> > > opinions on
> > > what to use (is the Lucas unit the one to get, or is there a
> > > ougher one out
> > > there?).
> >
> > Sorry, no opinion.  But, the Lucas unit should've lasted a _lot_ longer
> than
> > it did.  As much as we like to joke about the Prince of Darkness, the
> > starters were no worse than most.
> >
> > Randall

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