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RE: Triumph Prices (for example a TR6)

To: Gerhard Wiederholl <Gerhard.Wiederholl@t-online.de>, triumphs@autox.team.net, "'Bob Danielson'" <75trsix@snet.net>
Subject: RE: Triumph Prices (for example a TR6)
From: Gernot Vonhoegen <gernot.vonhoegen@stir.ac.uk>
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 17:09:01 -0000charset="iso-8859-1"
Bob, better be careful, a) these prices are not necessarily "true prices" as
you not necessarily can get cars as stated for the price stated. As
assessing cars and evaluating them, I find, that most cars offered as
condition three would actually rather fit four plus as the twos would rather
be threes and so on. This list is mostly compiled by studying ads and we all
know that ads are overstating most of the time. I have a TR6 (Dave will
know) that will be classified as condition three. However, I will not get
this car anywhere for the price stated in the list, I'd expect at least to
have to pay a premium of another 1000 pounds. 3k DM (whatever bucks) for the
simple reason stated above. b) cars exported will need in all instances work
to make them pass the local roadworthyness test as for different local
regulations which means the price is only valid for a car that has all the
necessary documents to immediately bring it on the road and a current (and
new) certificate of roadworthyness.

(nothing against your car, don't even know it) 
Gernot

> ----------
> From:         Bob Danielson[SMTP:75trsix@snet.net]
> Reply To:     Bob Danielson
> Sent:         Tuesday, January 19, 1999 12:41 PM
> To:   Gerhard Wiederholl; triumphs@autox.team.net
> Subject:      Re: Triumph Prices
> 
> 
> Gerhard,
> Here's another Price "Guide"
> http://www.specialcar.com/priceguide/price_t.html
> This one is put out by the same people who do Thoroughbred and Classic Car
> Magazine. These prices are a little lower than what you're showing but
> still
> appear to be higher than what we see here in the States. Based on these 2
> price lists....... I could actually MAKE money if I sold my car..........
> but  I'm on the wrong side of the Pond.
> Bob Danielson
> 75 TR6 - Status at
> http://pages.cthome.net/BobD
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Gerhard Wiederholl <Gerhard.Wiederholl@t-online.de>
> To: <triumphs@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 1999 5:21 AM
> Subject: Triumph Prices
> 
> 
> >
> >
> >I noticed that there are big differences in car prices between Europe and
> USA,
> >no matter if it is about new or old(classic) cars. I found a price list
> for
> >Triumphs in a German classic car magazin (Oldtimer Markt). The prices
> were
> >researched by watching actual sellings and auctions and are still in DM.
> I
> >scanned/edited the list and had excel calculating the USD figures which
> might
> >be more interesting for the majority of the listers.
> >
> >The 5 conditions  mean:
> >
> >Condition 1:
> >Like new or better than new quality car. No additional or missing parts.
> Very
> >rare
> >
> >Condition 2:
> >Good original or restored car. No shortcomings or defects. Little marks
> of
> use.
> >No additional or missing parts. Condition as expected for a 2 year old
> car.
> >
> >Condition 3:
> >Used car. Normal marks of use and years. Little defects, but ready for
> use.Work
> >needed, but not immediately. Not nice but usable
> >
> >Condition 4:
> >Worn out car, might be in driving condition. Some little or medium rust
> holes.
> >Some little parts might be missing. Easy to restore.
> >
> >Condition 5:
> >Non runner, can be in parts, missing parts, rustholes, can be restored ,
> but in
> >need of very much work and money
> >
> >
> >
> >  cond.1 cond.2 cond.3   cond.4  cond.5
> >
> >  TR 3 A 46000 35000 25800   15200   7100 DM
> >             27050 24588 15176    8941   4170 USD
> >
> >  TR 4 A 39000 30300 22500   13000   6500 DM
> >          23471 47524 13238    8000   3824 USD
> >
> >  TR 250 43100 33000 24400   14700   6900 DM
> >          25353 19412 14363    8647   4080 USD
> >
> >  TR 5 Pl 49800 38000 28200   16900   7400 DM
> >          29294 22353 16588    9941   4353 USD
> >
> >  TR 6, -72 38000 29000 19400   11600   5200 DM
> >          22353 17059 11412    6824   3050 USD
> >
> >  TR 6,72-76 37100 28300 18800   11300   5000 DM
> >          21824 16647 11059    6647   2941 USD
> >
> >   TR 6 Pl 42000 31800 24200   12800   5900 DM
> >  24700 18706 12471    7529   3471 USD
> >
> >  TR 7 conv. 19400 14500 8200   3800   1500 DM
> >  11412 8629 4824   2235    882 USD
> >
> >    TR 8 ----- 20300 12500   6900   2100 DM
> >         ----- 11941 7353   4059   1235 USD
> >
> > Herald conv. 15800 10000 6000   3100    1100 DM
> >           9204 5882 3529   1824    647 USD
> >
> > Vitesse Mk 2 22000 15900 10700   5900   2400 DM
> >          12941 9353    6294   3471   1412 USD
> >
> > Spitfire l500 18500 13400 8700   5400    2000 DM
> >          10882 7882 5118   3176   1176 USD
> >
> > Gt 6 + 22400 14500 9600   5300   2400 DM
> >  13176 8529 5647   3118   1412 USD
> >
> > STAG 32800 23300 16800   9100   5200 DM
> >        19294 13706 9882   5353   3059 USD
> >
> >
> >I understand that the price differences in Europe are negligible. But how
> about
> >the USA ? Is there a similar list which would make it possible to compare
> >prices?
> >
> >BTW this price list is acknowledged by insurances. But they want to see
> an
> >expertise about the condition of the car as it was before the crash. If
> the
> >expertise dates after the crash, they will allways state that the car was
> >allready damaged or badly restored at the time the crash happened.
> >
> >
> >Gerhard Wiederholl
> >
> >1969 TR 6
> >
> >1976 TR 7 RV
> >
> >
> >
> 

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