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Re: Triumph Prices

To: Gerhard Wiederholl <Gerhard.Wiederholl@t-online.de>
Subject: Re: Triumph Prices
From: fred thomas <vafred@erols.com>
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 07:39:13 -0800
Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net
References: <m0zzPhn-0003F2C@fwd10.btx.dtag.de> <m102YI3-0003FPC@fwd11.btx.dtag.de>
Krause publications in Iola, Wisc. 700 E. State st.54990-0001 715-445-2214, they
publish a yearly and quarterly book on old car prices (all makes & years), they
also have a weekly magazine called "Old Car Weekly" that gives the prices of all
auctions in the U.S. as well as conditions (1-5) the same rating system as you
listed.

Gerhard Wiederholl wrote:

> I noticed that there are big differences in car prices between Europe and  
>USA,
> no matter if it is about new or old(classic) cars. I found a price list for
> Triumphs in a German classic car magazin (Oldtimer Markt). The prices were
> researched by watching actual sellings and auctions and are still in DM. I
> scanned/edited the list and had excel calculating the USD figures which  might
> be more interesting for the majority of the listers.
>
> The 5 conditions  mean:
>
> Condition 1:
> Like new or better than new quality car. No additional or missing parts. Very
> rare
>
> Condition 2:
> Good original or restored car. No shortcomings or defects. Little marks of 
>use.
> No additional or missing parts. Condition as expected for a 2 year old car.
>
> Condition 3:
> Used car. Normal marks of use and years. Little defects, but ready for 
>use.Work
> needed, but not immediately. Not nice but usable
>
> Condition 4:
> Worn out car, might be in driving condition. Some little or medium rust holes.
> Some little parts might be missing. Easy to restore.
>
> Condition 5:
> Non runner, can be in parts, missing parts, rustholes, can be restored , but 
>in
> need of very much work and money
>
>                 cond.1  cond.2  cond.3    cond.4  cond.5
>
>   TR 3 A        46000   35000   25800     15200   7100  DM
>                 27050   24588   15176      8941   4170  USD
>
>   TR 4 A        39000   30300   22500     13000   6500  DM
>                 23471   47524   13238      8000   3824  USD
>
>   TR 250        43100   33000   24400     14700   6900  DM
>                 25353   19412   14363      8647   4080  USD
>
>   TR 5 Pl       49800   38000   28200     16900   7400  DM
>                 29294   22353   16588      9941   4353  USD
>
>   TR 6, -72     38000   29000   19400     11600   5200  DM
>                 22353   17059   11412      6824   3050  USD
>
>   TR 6,72-76    37100   28300   18800     11300   5000  DM
>                 21824   16647   11059      6647   2941  USD
>
>    TR 6 Pl      42000   31800   24200     12800   5900  DM
>                 24700   18706   12471      7529   3471  USD
>
>   TR 7 conv.    19400   14500   8200      3800    1500  DM
>                 11412   8629    4824      2235     882  USD
>
>     TR 8        -----   20300   12500     6900    2100  DM
>                 -----   11941   7353      4059    1235  USD
>
>  Herald conv.   15800   10000   6000      3100    1100  DM
>                  9204   5882    3529      1824     647  USD
>
>  Vitesse Mk 2   22000   15900   10700     5900    2400  DM
>                 12941    9353    6294     3471    1412  USD
>
>  Spitfire l500  18500   13400   8700      5400    2000  DM
>                 10882    7882   5118      3176    1176  USD
>
>  Gt 6 +         22400   14500   9600      5300    2400  DM
>                 13176    8529   5647      3118    1412  USD
>
>  STAG           32800   23300   16800     9100    5200  DM
>                 19294   13706   9882      5353    3059  USD
>
> I understand that the price differences in Europe are negligible. But how 
>about
> the USA ? Is there a similar list which would make it possible to compare
> prices?
>
> BTW this price list is acknowledged by insurances. But they want to see an
> expertise about the condition of the car as it was before the crash. If the
> expertise dates after the crash, they will allways state that the car was
> allready damaged or badly restored at the time the crash happened.
>
> Gerhard Wiederholl
>
> 1969 TR 6
>
> 1976 TR 7 RV


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