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Re: S&C, TR6's, etc

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Subject: Re: S&C, TR6's, etc
From: "Randell Jesup" <jesup@mailhost.scala.com>
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 96 15:27:57 EDT
Andrew Mace writes:
>> >Can you say Q-ship?

>In case Strange Amercian Car Slang doesn't always drift eastward over the
>seas to the mother country, a Q-Ship is what some people call the various
>high-end, high-dollar (and, to me, high-pretense) Mercedes, BMW, [maybe]
>Jaguar, Lexus, Acura, Infiniti and other big luxury sedans. Me, I call
>them out of my price range! 

        Q-ship is from WWII - they were freighters with added guns, lights,
and filled with things like balsa wood instead of cargo. Disguised sub-hunters.
The car version is the very fast car that looks like a regular (or slow)
normal car (often a sedan).  Rusty Datsun 510's were renowned for being
Q-ships.

Various people write:
>Subject: Horrible experience w/ Sports & Classics

        If so many people have had bad experiences, why haven't you added
comments on the Monster List webpage?  There are no comments there at all...


Philip Smith writes:
>I Know, I know, I should have been paying closer attention, but now 
>that I actually own a TR6, the need for a tire decision is now and 
>immediate. What is the esteemed opinion of the B.F. Goodrich Touring 
>TA's 205-65-15? Anybody have any better suggestions? Thanks for your 
>help!

        I'd go with 195 or 205/70's.  I'm running Yoko A378 205/70-15's.
They look quite good, and handle reasonably (AVIDs would be slightly better;
it's hard/impossible to get performance tires in 70 series any more, and
lower-profiles are either smaller diameter, or you have to go wider and the
5.5" rims really don't like that.  Without an OD a '6 is already turning lots
of RPMs on the highway.

        You could try Yoko AVS Int. 215/65's.  Probably won't rub, and while
marginal they won't be way to large for the rims.

        Someone else said that his T/A 205/70's rub a lot a full lock.  This
may vary with vendor, and with front suspension setup/evenness/slop.

        Try this page: http://www.sanders.com/vtr/TR6/TR6-tires.html

Hctcbob@aol.com writes:
[ S&C/etc story deleted...]
>For some reason,
>I expect these people to show their enthusiasm.  TRF shows it, but it appears
>that they have their own problems.  I tried to order a pair of stock rear
>springs, a diff cover gasket and pinion seal, carb kits and 2 bonnet locating
>cones from them last week.  They had 1 of the springs in stock. These are not
>unusual parts.  How could they run out of carb kits? I ordered it from
>Moss---all in stock.

        People noticed in the last year or two TRF was having trouble keeping
normal parts in stock - they seemed to have their inventory tied up in large
orders of (newly) reproduced stock and more unusual items.  Around then they
even were out of stock of rear brake shoes for a TR6.  They do seem to have
improved some lately.  Expanding to cover MGB's may have had an effect also -
more parts to inventory, and less overlap than the TR models have with each
other.

        Latest TRF story - I ordered a set of TR6 shock links because I
couldn't get my old ones out of the old shocks (and they were ancient/dead).
In stock, arrived in 2 days regular UPS (I'm in PA).  I needed the '6 on
the road, since my Merkur's wiper linkage popped, and it's been raining a lot
in PA.  (Weird to use a TR6 as a bad-weather car...)

        However, playing with the car last night (adjusting cold idle,
plugging the retard connection (retard leaks), sealing a vacuum/oil leak
under a valve cover nut), I topped off the radiator and noticed a few drops
of oil in the water.  Uh oh.  I retorqued the head (and adjusted the valves)
last summer because of a persistent slow oil leak from the left-rear
head/block joint.  No signs at all of water in the oil - it's perfect.  I
don't think it's serious - this coolant has been in there for 1.5 years, and
about 3K miles I guess.  Oil pressure is 90-100psi cold, 75psi hot at speed,
40-50 psi @1300rpm hot, 30 psi @~850rpm hot.  '70 TR6.

        Sigh.

        I also found that I has an engine/carb combination that's
"impossible" according to Bentley and the TRF big catalog - March '70 TR6,
CC53029, engine number very close to 53029 (original, I'm sure), carbs are
3385L and R.  These are supposed to be '71 carbs, and fitted several thousand
cars later than mine, supposedly.  Also, the vacuum advance connection is
not supposed to be there, and if there isn't drilled through.  These have
vacuum advance, and it works.  Both advance and retard are on the rear carb.
Isn't it wonderful how consistently Triumph assembled their cars?  <sarcasm
intended>  The wiring loom is also sort of a mixture of '70 and '71, though
it's not a late '70 (buzzer, horn relay, etc shouldn't be there but are).

        BTW, is there any good way to pop the anti-tamper plug out of the
bypass valves so you can adjust them?
-- 
Randell Jesup, Scala US R&D, Ex-Commodore-Amiga Engineer class of '94
Randell.Jesup@scala.com
Exon food: <offensive words no longer censored - thank you ACLU, EFF, etc>

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