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Subject: Re: [Tigers] Shocks
From: Tom Witt via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
Date: Wed, 24 May 2023 10:36:49 -0700
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Just an FYI from my Corvair side of life; a Yenko owner looked into 
having his Koni's rebuilt to retain the 1966 date code originality. He 
was directed to a Koni service center. They wanted $250 just to service 
EACH shock, $980 in parts and $400 to paint the shocks (apparently not 
included in the rebuild price). That came to $2,380 less tax and 
shipping. Ironically the shocks could be purchased new for $623 for the 
set of four. So, if you are considering buying Koni's because they are 
rebuildable you might want to reconsider that. Here is a link to the 
noted discussion thread: 
http://corvaircenter.com/phorum/read.php?1,1168960,page=1

Personally I looked into purchasing the parts to rebuild the Koni front 
set I have and I could not find ANY source for parts. They seemed to be 
available for the motorcycle line but not the automotive line. When I 
consider the above experiences and the reply from Rick I get the 
impression Koni is only interested in the exclusive customer that has no 
problem in paying the exclusive price.


On 5/23/2023 9:23 PM, Craig via Tigers wrote:
> I forwarded the Classic Garage email to the parts manager of CAT and 
> asked her to put the word out.  Maybe they can generate some interest 
> as well...
> Craig
>
> On 5/23/2023 6:27 PM, Michael Wood via Tigers wrote:
>> Sounds like a good situation for an active Tiger club to think about 
>> taking on, maybe? But, the cap ex up front is pretty serious, 
>> probably better to do as a group buy, I guess. Anyone want to 
>> quantify the current demand? ;)
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Craig via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
>> To: michael king <michael.s.king@gmail.com>; tigers@autox.team.net
>> Cc: Tiger Talk List Tiger <tigers@autox.team.net>
>> Sent: Tue, May 23, 2023 3:41 pm
>> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Shocks
>>
>> Rick only had 2 front shocks at Sunbeam Specialties.
>> Classic Garage sent me this response:
>>
>> Sorry, we are out and have no plans to order a new production run. We 
>> need to order a minimum of 50 of each shock for Koni to make them. 
>> Unless a club or other organization wants to commit -  with deposits, 
>> to  more than half of the run, this is not happening. Used to be we 
>> received lots of queries and had deposits for a fair number before we 
>> ordered, even with that, it took nearly 5 years to sell 25 cars 
>> worth. You are only the second inquiry we have had since we ran out 
>> in 2020. Does not look like there is enough demand any longer.
>> Good luck,
>> Ann
>> customer service
>>
>> classicgarage.com
>> 997 Route 22
>> Brewster, NY 10509
>> 845-940-1900
>>
>> Hopefully someone will want to order more!
>>
>>
>> On 5/21/2023 7:27 PM, michael king wrote:
>> Rick= sunbeam specialties ð???
>>
>> On Mon, 22 May 2023, 5:09 am Craig via Tigers, <tigers@autox.team.net 
>>
>>     I'm sorry.  I'm new here.  Could you give me Rick's number?
>>
>>     On 5/21/2023 11:50 AM, twotigers--- via Tigers wrote:
>>>
>>>     Rick has a slew of Koniâ??s for Tigers- when I bought mine last
>>>     year he had dozens left- give him a call!
>>>
>>>     *From:* Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net>
>>>     Wood via Tigers
>>>     *Sent:* Sunday, May 21, 2023 9:25 AM
>>>     *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] Shocks
>>>
>>>     I can check with my friends at KONI, but I seem to remember that
>>>     the guy at Classic Garage was the only vendor ordering the Tiger
>>>     part numbers. I guess just call him and see if they are having
>>>     more made.
>>>
>>>     Mike
>>>
>>>
>>>     -----Original Message-----
>>>     From: Craig via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net
>>>     To: Arden Bedell <sixtysixtiger@hotmail.com
>>>     Sent: Sat, May 20, 2023 8:19 pm
>>>     Subject: Re: [Tigers] Shocks
>>>
>>>     Looks like they are both "Out of Stock".
>>>     Darn it  :-(
>>>
>>>     On 5/20/2023 6:19 PM, Arden Bedell via Tigers wrote:
>>>
>>>     Classic Garage:
>>>
>>>         https://classicgarage.com/sunbeam3.html
>>>         <https://classicgarage.com/sunbeam3.html>
>>>
>>>     Koni front shocks:
>>>
>>>         https://classicgarage.com/sualtifrsh.html
>>>         <https://classicgarage.com/sualtifrsh.html>
>>>
>>>     Koni rear shocks:
>>>
>>>         https://classicgarage.com/sualtiresh.html
>>>         <https://classicgarage.com/sualtiresh.html>
>>>
>>>     On 5/20/23 4:40 PM, Allan Ballard via Tigers wrote:
>>>
>>>         Front: 8210 1160. (6 may be a 0 canâ??t tell for sure)
>>>
>>>         Older Koni adjustable off the car
>>>
>>>         -
>>>
>>>         Rear shocks are still on the car
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>             On May 19, 2023, at 7:14 PM, Craig via Tigers
>>>             wrote:
>>>
>>>             Does anyone have the part numbers for Koni's? Front and
>>>             back?  I contacted Vivid Racing and they just sent me
>>>             pages and pages to pick from.
>>>             Would appreciate any help.
>>>             Thanks,
>>>             Craig
>>>
>>>             On 5/16/2023 7:23 AM, Will Seay via Tigers wrote:
>>>
>>>                 OK, might as well add my 2-cents worth.  I put Konis
>>>                 on my Tiger in about '68.  They're still working
>>>                 great after about 55 years.
>>>
>>>                 Will - 382001570
>>>
>>>                 On Tue, May 16, 2023 at 2:55â?¯AM twotigers--- via
>>>                 Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net
>>>
>>>                     Yup, Konis. Just replaced my old KYB gas shocks-
>>>                     what a difference!
>>>
>>>                     -----Original Message-----
>>>                     From: Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net
>>>                     Behalf Of Dr. T. Y. McDowell
>>>                     Sent: Monday, May 15, 2023 3:40 PM
>>>                     To: Peter and Bonnie MacDonald
>>>                     <macdonald49@shaw.ca
>>>                     Subject: Re: [Tigers] Shocks
>>>
>>>                     Me too! Konis are the way to go.
>>>
>>>                     Tym McDowell
>>>                     > On 05/15/2023 3:13 PM Peter and Bonnie
>>>                     MacDonald <macdonald49@shaw.ca
>>>                     >
>>>                     >
>>>                     > I have used KONIâ??s for many years with good
>>>                     performance. They are adjustable and they can
>>>                     also be rebuilt.
>>>                     >
>>>                     > Peter
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    <p>Just an FYI from my Corvair side of life; a Yenko owner looked
      into having his Koni's rebuilt to retain the 1966 date code
      originality. He was directed to a Koni service center. They wanted
      $250 just to service EACH shock, $980 in parts and $400 to paint
      the shocks (apparently not included in the rebuild price). That
      came to $2,380 less tax and shipping. Ironically the shocks could
      be purchased new for $623 for the set of four. So, if you are
      considering buying Koni's because they are rebuildable you might
      want to reconsider that. Here is a link to the noted discussion
      thread: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
        href="http://corvaircenter.com/phorum/read.php?1,1168960,page=1";
        
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">http://corvaircenter.com/phorum/read.php?1,1168960,page=1</a>
      <br>
    </p>
    <p>Personally I looked into purchasing the parts to rebuild the Koni
      front set I have and I could not find ANY source for parts. They
      seemed to be available for the motorcycle line but not the
      automotive line. When I consider the above experiences and the
      reply from Rick I get the impression Koni is only interested in
      the exclusive customer that has no problem in paying the exclusive
      price.<br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix"><br>
    </div>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/23/2023 9:23 PM, Craig via Tigers
      wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type="cite"
      cite="mid:c12124ae-1fd5-d152-01c8-5618815072c5@bendbroadband.com">
      <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8">
      I forwarded the Classic Garage email to the parts manager of CAT
      and asked her to put the word out.  Maybe they can generate some
      interest as well...<br>
      Craig<br>
      <br>
      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/23/2023 6:27 PM, Michael Wood
        via Tigers wrote:<br>
      </div>
      <blockquote type="cite"
        cite="mid:729250753.959425.1684891651356@mail.yahoo.com">
        <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html;
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style="font-size:10pt;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;color:black;">
          <div
style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:black;">Sounds
            like a good situation for an active Tiger club to think
            about taking on, maybe? But, the cap ex up front is pretty
            serious, probably better to do as a group buy, I guess.
            Anyone want to quantify the current demand? ;) </div>
          <div
style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:black;"><br>
          </div>
          <div
style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:black;">Mike<br>
            <br>
            <br>
            -----Original Message-----<br>
            From: Craig via Tigers <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
              href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; 
moz-do-not-send="true">&lt;tigers@autox.team.net&gt;</a><br>
            To: michael king <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
              href="mailto:michael.s.king@gmail.com";
              moz-do-not-send="true">&lt;michael.s.king@gmail.com&gt;</a>;
            <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated moz-txt-link-freetext"
              href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; 
moz-do-not-send="true">tigers@autox.team.net</a><br>
            Cc: Tiger Talk List Tiger <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
              href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; 
moz-do-not-send="true">&lt;tigers@autox.team.net&gt;</a><br>
            Sent: Tue, May 23, 2023 3:41 pm<br>
            Subject: Re: [Tigers] Shocks<br>
            <br>
          </div>
          <div id="yiv8566430403">
            <div> Rick only had 2 front shocks at Sunbeam Specialties. 
              <br clear="none">
              Classic Garage sent me this response:<br clear="none">
              <br clear="none">
              <div dir="ltr">Sorry, we are out and have no plans to
                order a new production run. We need to order a minimum
                of 50 of each shock for Koni to make them. Unless a club
                or other organization wants to commit -  with deposits,
                to  more than half of the run, this is not happening.
                Used to be we received lots of queries and had deposits
                for a fair number before we ordered, even with that, it
                took nearly 5 years to sell 25 cars worth. You are only
                the second inquiry we have had since we ran out in 2020.
                Does not look like there is enough demand any longer. <br
                  clear="none">
              </div>
              <div dir="ltr">Good luck,</div>
              <div dir="ltr">Ann</div>
              <div dir="ltr">customer service<br clear="none">
              </div>
              <div><br clear="none">
              </div>
              <div dir="ltr">classicgarage.com</div>
              <div dir="ltr">997 Route 22</div>
              <div dir="ltr">Brewster, NY 10509</div>
              845-940-1900<br clear="none">
              <br clear="none">
              Hopefully someone will want to order more!<br clear="none">
              <br clear="none">
              <br clear="none">
              <div id="yiv8566430403yqt98439"
                class="yiv8566430403yqt5024220598">
                <div class="yiv8566430403moz-cite-prefix">On 5/21/2023
                  7:27 PM, michael king wrote:<br clear="none">
                </div>
                <blockquote type="cite"> </blockquote>
              </div>
            </div>
            <div id="yiv8566430403yqt31587"
              class="yiv8566430403yqt5024220598">
              <div>
                <div>Rick= sunbeam specialties ð???</div>
                <br clear="none">
                <div class="yiv8566430403gmail_quote">
                  <div dir="ltr" class="yiv8566430403gmail_attr">On Mon,
                    22 May 2023, 5:09 am Craig via Tigers, &lt;<a
                      rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect"
                      ymailto="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net";
                      target="_blank"
                      href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net";
                      class="yiv8566430403moz-txt-link-freetext
                      moz-txt-link-freetext" 
moz-do-not-send="true">tigers@autox.team.net</a>&gt;
                    wrote:<br clear="none">
                  </div>
                  <blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px
                    #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"
                    class="yiv8566430403gmail_quote">
                    <div> I'm sorry.  I'm new here.  Could you give me
                      Rick's number?<br clear="none">
                      <br clear="none">
                      <div>On 5/21/2023 11:50 AM, twotigers--- via
                        Tigers wrote:<br clear="none">
                      </div>
                      <blockquote type="cite">
                        <div>
                          <p class="yiv8566430403MsoNormal">Rick has a
                            slew of Koniâ??s for Tigers- when I bought
                            mine last year he had dozens left- give him
                            a call!</p>
                          <p class="yiv8566430403MsoNormal"> </p>
                          <div style="border:none;border-top:solid
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                            <p class="yiv8566430403MsoNormal"><b>From:</b>
                              Tigers <a rel="nofollow noopener
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                                ymailto="mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net";
                                target="_blank"
                                href="mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net";
                                
moz-do-not-send="true">&lt;tigers-bounces@autox.team.net&gt;</a>
                              <b>On Behalf Of </b>Michael Wood via
                              Tigers<br clear="none">
                              <b>Sent:</b> Sunday, May 21, 2023 9:25 AM<br
                                clear="none">
                              <b>To:</b> <a rel="nofollow noopener
                                noreferrer" shape="rect"
                                ymailto="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net";
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                                href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net";
                                class="yiv8566430403moz-txt-link-freetext
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moz-do-not-send="true">tigers@autox.team.net</a>;
                              <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer"
                                shape="rect"
                                ymailto="mailto:sixtysixtiger@hotmail.com";
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                                href="mailto:sixtysixtiger@hotmail.com";
class="yiv8566430403moz-txt-link-freetext moz-txt-link-freetext"
                                
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                              <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] Shocks</p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black;">I
                                  can check with my friends at KONI, but
                                  I seem to remember that the guy at
                                  Classic Garage was the only vendor
                                  ordering the Tiger part numbers. I
                                  guess just call him and see if they
                                  are having more made.</span></p>
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                              <p style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;"
                                class="yiv8566430403MsoNormal"><span
                                  
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black;">Mike<br
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                                  -----Original Message-----<br
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                                  From: Craig via Tigers &lt;<a
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                                  Subject: Re: [Tigers] Shocks</span></p>
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                                <p style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;"
                                  class="yiv8566430403MsoNormal"><span
                                    
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black;">Looks
                                    like they are both "Out of Stock". 
                                    <br clear="none">
                                    Darn it  :-(</span></p>
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                                  <p class="yiv8566430403MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black;">On
                                      5/20/2023 6:19 PM, Arden Bedell
                                      via Tigers wrote:</span></p>
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                              <div>
                                <p><span
                                    
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black;">Classic
                                    Garage:</span></p>
                                <blockquote
                                  style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt;">
                                  <p><span
                                      
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black;"><a
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href="https://classicgarage.com/sunbeam3.html";
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moz-do-not-send="true">https://classicgarage.com/sunbeam3.html</a></span></p>
                                </blockquote>
                                <p><span
                                    
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black;">Koni
                                    front shocks:</span></p>
                                <blockquote
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                                  <p><span
                                      
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black;"><a
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moz-do-not-send="true">https://classicgarage.com/sualtifrsh.html</a></span></p>
                                </blockquote>
                                <p><span
                                    
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black;">Koni
                                    rear shocks:</span></p>
                                <blockquote
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moz-do-not-send="true">https://classicgarage.com/sualtiresh.html</a></span></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black;"> </span></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black;">On 5/20/23
                                      4:40 PM, Allan Ballard via Tigers
                                      wrote:</span></p>
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                                <blockquote
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                                  <p class="yiv8566430403MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black;">Front: 8210
                                      1160. (6 may be a 0 canâ??t tell for
                                      sure) </span></p>
                                  <div>
                                    <p class="yiv8566430403MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black;">Older Koni
                                        adjustable off the car</span></p>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>
                                    <p class="yiv8566430403MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black;">- </span></p>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>
                                    <p class="yiv8566430403MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black;">Rear shocks
                                        are still on the car</span></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black;"> </span></p>
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                                            class="yiv8566430403MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black;">On May 19,
                                              2023, at 7:14 PM, Craig
                                              via Tigers <a
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                                              wrote:</span></p>
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                                            <p
                                              style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;"
class="yiv8566430403MsoNormal"><span
                                                
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black;">Does
                                                anyone have the part
                                                numbers for Koni's? 
                                                Front and back?  I
                                                contacted Vivid Racing
                                                and they just sent me
                                                pages and pages to pick
                                                from.<br clear="none">
                                                Would appreciate any
                                                help.<br clear="none">
                                                Thanks,<br clear="none">
                                                Craig</span></p>
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                                              <p
                                                
class="yiv8566430403MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black;">On
                                                  5/16/2023 7:23 AM,
                                                  Will Seay via Tigers
                                                  wrote:</span></p>
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style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt;">
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                                                <div>
                                                  <p
                                                    
class="yiv8566430403MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black;">OK, might
                                                      as well add my
                                                      2-cents worth.  I
                                                      put Konis on my
                                                      Tiger in about
                                                      '68.  They're
                                                      still working
                                                      great after about
                                                      55 years.</span></p>
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class="yiv8566430403MsoNormal"><span
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class="yiv8566430403MsoNormal"><span
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class="yiv8566430403MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black;">On Tue, May
                                                      16, 2023 at
                                                      2:55â?¯AM
                                                      twotigers--- via
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style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;"
class="yiv8566430403MsoNormal"><span
                                                      
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black;">Yup,
                                                      Konis. Just
                                                      replaced my old
                                                      KYB gas shocks-
                                                      what a difference!<br
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                                                      Sent: Monday, May
                                                      15, 2023 3:40 PM<br
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                                                      Bonnie MacDonald
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                                                      Subject: Re:
                                                      [Tigers] Shocks<br
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                                                      Me too! Konis are
                                                      the way to go.<br
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                                                      Tym McDowell<br
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                                                      &gt; On 05/15/2023
                                                      3:13 PM Peter and
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                                                      &gt; <br
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                                                      &gt;  <br
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                                                      &gt; I have used
                                                      KONIâ??s for many
                                                      years with good
                                                      performance. They
                                                      are adjustable and
                                                      they can also be
                                                      rebuilt.<br
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