And some slack should be given as a fun event to cars that are driven.
Trailer queens speak for themselves.
On Tue, 13 May 1997 20:42:21 -0600 "JAN SVEN-ERIK HARDE, LUTCF"
<harde@cyberesc.net> writes:
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>From: Rande Bellman[SMTP:rande@thecia.net]
>Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 1997 3:36 PM
>To: tigers@autox.team.net
>Subject: The United and the Concours
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>Rande,
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>I agree, great event, especially the Caravan from L.A. was great.
>The " Concourse " and I use that term loosely as it was just a car
>show, =
>was a let down to say the least.
>We had all looked at the ""Official"" judging form on the Web site for
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>months, and due to some individuals with extreme powers, this judging
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>was dropped.
>Some of us spent many many hours fine tuning our final show product.
>To meet with the expectations of the Concourse, that never came.
>Don't get me wrong, I am happy with my trophy, but feel bad for others
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>who would have been moved up a notch, if the Herringbone car would
>have =
>been correctly classified, NOT IN A STOCK CLASS, this car was never a
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>production vehicle, one was ever made, it was a custom coachwork car =
>made specifically from an Alpine, atleast that is what The good book =
>says.
>This car should be in a Masters class, or in a special interest class,
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>if this car enters next year as a Stock, Hmmmmm I wonder who will
>win??? =
>Ahhhh Daaaahh
>Not one of our """"PRODUCTION""" cars will ever compete against this =
>car, it is so unique and unusual.
>So to me the Concourse event is a major part of a United, it was =
>advertised as such, and never just as a "car show", I can attend
>dozens =
>of those here every month, but not with the opportunity to be judged =
>along side my peers.
>We need change, the classes need to be split, Mk1, Mk1A and a class
>for =
>Mk2, also a Masters class, this class is anyone who has trophied in a
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>class for 3 years, then moved up to give others a goal to strive for,
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>also a special interest class.
>The more tropies the marrier...
>Every other car club I have been a member of does this, and you are =
>correct, the judges need to have a judges meeting, prior to the event,
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>with guidelines, as well as a Master judge, who irons out any
>questions =
>during judging..
>This is how I did things in the Volvo club for years, and guess what,
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>everyone was happy..
>Now that sounds great!!!!
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>Take care to all, and let's hope for changes to come quick and
>furiously =
>as not to end up on a "GOOSE SHIT" infested dirt patch again, and
>let's =
>do it in style from now on....
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>See Ya' Jan............. Stock 3rd place
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>Eureka 97...
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>I'm responding to Jeff Cushing's post about the Concours at the Eureka
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>United,=20
>and I'll tackle the judging first.
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>I, too, expected judges on the order of, let's say, TAC committee
>people =
>to be=20
>doing the judging. If what Jeff said about the use of fellow class car
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>owners for=20
>judging is true, I agree that a more professional source, like TAC, =
>would level=20
>the playing field and hopefully cut down on some the complaints from =
>entrants.
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>Again, if I take Jeffs word for gospel that the Harrington Tiger =
>competed in the=20
>same class as a mass-produced Tiger roadster, then I too think the car
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>was in=20
>the wrong class. It probably should have competed with the featured
>cars =
>like=20
>the rally car and the Le Mans Tigers. Placing it in competition in a =
>stock class is=20
>unfair to Bill V and the roadster owners.
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>The judging aspect of concours events in general are sometimes a major
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>turnoff.=20
>Part of that in the Tiger world is that all of us have taken our cars
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>apart, and we=20
>think we have a heightened sense of what is original, personalized,
>and =
>modified.
>This probably is going to cause some friction.
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>Did I have any problems at the concours? Someone with a bull horn
>would=20
>periodically tell those of us with camera to get away from the cars =
>while the=20
>judges did their thing, all the while my plane is taking off in 90 =
>minutes, and=20
>these special cars may not be here again, and I"m thinking, "unless
>you =
>are=20
>planning on having bull horn for your box lunch, beat it, chum."
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>Largely, the show from my spectator vantage point was outstanding. I =
>agree with=20
>Tim Morin, I've had many great experiences at these United, but this
>one =
>was the=20
>absolute best.
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>As to the cost, those of us who are not from around those parts
>spent=20
>considerably more just to fly there and stay for the weekend. Heck, =
>Disneyland is=20
>close to $200 for 4 adults, for just ten hours, and thats before the =
>food.
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>If any of the registration money was used to get those great Tigers =
>shipped to=20
>Eureka, it was money well spent.
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>I'm genuinely sorry that you didn't have a better time there, Jeff.
>The =
>Redwoods,=20
>the coast, and the Tigers were wonderfull. If you want Big Bear to be
>a =
>success,=20
>get Mr. Hall and Norman involved in the judging guidelines, with your
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>input. But,=20
>largely, it will be mainly an uphill battle(and no, I don't just mean
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>the drive to=20
>Big Bear) to top this years United. If you seriously think you can =
>improve on it,=20
>tell me and Tim Morin now. We're already packin'.
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>Rande Bellman
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