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To: David G <dwgwater@hotmail.com>, Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Past present and future- no LBC
From: Weslake1330 via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2025 23:39:26 +0000
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Hi David,

I guess the blessing for us both in being baffled is that we aren't leaders
of other nations, government departments and such that have to work out how
to respond or not and just have to remain baffled.

Regards

Daniel

On Mon, 24 Feb 2025 at 22:51, David G <dwgwater@hotmail.com> wrote:

> You are not alone in being baffled
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Spridgets <spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of
> Weslake1330 via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
> *Sent:* Monday, February 24, 2025 2:43 PM
> *To:* Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* [Spridgets] Past present and future- no LBC
>
> Hi List,
>
> I was born in the early 1960s in a rural part of the country and it seems
> within walking distance of one of many nuclear missile stations here in
> England.  It was too soon for ICBMs so America had our friendly assistance
> in siting short range nuclear missiles in our country and within striking
> range of the USSR - THOR (lots on YouTube and the internet about THOR).
>
> I was at school for the moon landings and only decades later visited the
> place where Neil Armstrong's famous words  were first heard.  That place
> was not the USA but a British crown territory where the signal was received
> and then sent onto the USA.  The place was Ascension Island (at least one
> good fiction book was based on the island...).
>
> I was an enlisted serviceman in the RAF where I saw one of the last b&w
> photos of a Russian bear that had been live intercepted by a fighter from
> my squadron.  About the same time I saw a piece of rubbish concrete that
> arrived in the mail for a member of the squadron - it was a piece of the
> Berlin wall.
>
> The world order changed, the cold war ended and the world seemed a safer
> place and maybe for a while it was.  Terrorist attacks continued around the
> world and in various countries and still do.  So I guess this is the
> present.
>
> The future seems less safe and so I wanted to write this e-mail.  My
> understanding is that lots of honest (not corrupt) and good countries are a
> friend of the USA.  Also the good countries (think of NATO members as a
> starting point) have the same common enemies as the USA does: Iran, North
> Korea, China (Peoples Republic of China) and Russia.  However I guess Iran
> and North Korea actually hate the USA and would like to nuke it and maybe
> one day they will try to, but not bother with England/the UK or Europe or
> maybe just not have enough missiles to try to do so.
>
> The Ukraine has been invaded in part by Russia and the only reason they
> haven't been totally taken over is because they fought back and had help
> and support from the USA and Europe.  The Ukraine might be on their last
> legs but in a different way so is Russia and they have both paid a hefty
> price to date.
>
> If you think back to my childhood where Europe was a willing buffer to
> help keep the USSR at bay who targeted missiles (now ICBMs and sub
> delivered) at the USA and Europe - it was a policy that worked.
>
> So what I don't understand is why the USA would now be so friendly to
> Russia.  Call the Ukraine a European problem and you might be right.
> However, why be wholly on Russia's side who are propped up by North Korea
> who have undoubtedly gained money and most likely warfare expertise
> (nuclear and missile technology)?  Once Russia have what they want and so
> does North Korea, is the world a more dangerous place and is the USA less
> safe from rogue states than ever before?
>
> Regards
>
>
> Daniel
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi David,<div><br></div><div>I guess the blessing for us b=
oth in being baffled is that we aren&#39;t leaders of other nations, govern=
ment departments and such that have to work out how to respond or not and j=
ust have to remain baffled.</div><div><br></div><div>Regards</div><div><br>=
</div><div>Daniel</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_cont=
ainer"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, 24 Feb 2025 at 22:51, =
David G &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dwgwater@hotmail.com";>dwgwater@hotmail.com</a=
>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px=
 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><di=
v class=3D"msg-5502947191293797721">




<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
You are not alone in being baffled</div>
<div id=3D"m_-5502947191293797721appendonsend"></div>
<hr style=3D"display:inline-block;width:98%">
<div id=3D"m_-5502947191293797721divRplyFwdMsg" dir=3D"ltr"><font face=3D"C=
alibri, sans-serif" style=3D"font-size:11pt" color=3D"#000000"><b>From:</b>=
 Spridgets &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net"; target=
=3D"_blank">spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net</a>&gt; on behalf of Weslake13=
30 via Spridgets &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:spridgets@autox.team.net"; target=3D"=
_blank">spridgets@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 24, 2025 2:43 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Spridgets &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:spridgets@autox.team.net"; target=
=3D"_blank">spridgets@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Spridgets] Past present and future- no LBC</font>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
</div>
<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi List,
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I was born in the early 1960s in a rural part of the country and it se=
ems within walking distance of one of many nuclear missile stations here in=
 England.=C2=A0 It was too soon for ICBMs so America had our friendly assis=
tance in siting short range nuclear missiles
 in our country and within striking range of the USSR - THOR (lots on YouTu=
be and the internet about THOR).</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I was at school for the moon landings and only decades later visited t=
he place where Neil Armstrong&#39;s famous words=C2=A0 were first heard.=C2=
=A0 That place was not the USA but a British crown territory where the sign=
al was received and then sent onto the USA.=C2=A0 The
 place was Ascension Island (at least one good fiction book was based on th=
e island...).</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I was an enlisted serviceman in the RAF where I saw one of the last b&=
amp;w photos of a Russian bear that had been live intercepted by a fighter =
from my squadron.=C2=A0 About the same time I saw a piece of rubbish concre=
te that arrived in the mail for a member
 of the squadron - it was a piece of the Berlin wall.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>The world order changed, the cold war ended and the world seemed a saf=
er place and maybe for a while it was.=C2=A0 Terrorist attacks continued ar=
ound the world and in various countries and still do.=C2=A0 So I guess this=
 is the present.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>The future seems less safe and so I wanted to write this e-mail.=C2=A0=
 My understanding is that lots of honest (not corrupt) and good countries a=
re a friend of the USA.=C2=A0 Also the good countries (think of NATO member=
s as a starting point) have the same common
 enemies as the USA does: Iran, North Korea, China (Peoples Republic of Chi=
na) and Russia.=C2=A0 However I guess Iran and North Korea actually hate th=
e USA and would like to nuke it and maybe one day they will try to, but not=
 bother with England/the UK or Europe
 or maybe just not have enough missiles to try to do so.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>The Ukraine has been invaded in part by Russia and the only reason the=
y haven&#39;t been totally taken over is because they fought back and had h=
elp and support from the USA and Europe.=C2=A0 The Ukraine might be on thei=
r last legs but in a different way so is
 Russia and they have both paid a hefty price to date.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>If you think back to my childhood where Europe was a willing buffer to=
 help keep the USSR at bay who targeted missiles (now ICBMs and sub deliver=
ed) at the USA and Europe - it was a policy that worked.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>So what I don&#39;t understand is why the USA would now be so friendly=
 to Russia.=C2=A0 Call the Ukraine a European problem and you might be righ=
t.=C2=A0 However, why be wholly on Russia&#39;s side who are propped up by =
North Korea who have undoubtedly gained money and
 most likely warfare expertise (nuclear and missile technology)?=C2=A0 Once=
 Russia have what they want and so does North Korea, is the world a more da=
ngerous place and is the USA less safe from rogue states than ever before?<=
/div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Regards</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Daniel</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>

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