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Re: [Spridgets] Manifold flange thickness

To: Weslake1330 <weslake1330@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Manifold flange thickness
From: derf via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2020 16:43:27 -0500
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I sit corrected.  It's been a while since I had a manifold off.  Seems like
my Titan single HIF6 intake had a separate gasked, though.

On Sat, Sep 5, 2020 at 4:39 PM Weslake1330 <weslake1330@gmail.com> wrote:

> On the A-series it should be a single gasket that seals both the inlet an=
d
> the exhaust ports at the head.
>
> On Sat, 5 Sep 2020 at 22:37, derf <derf247@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I would carefully grind washers.  Even if both flanges are the correct
>> thickness you will most likely have gaskets of differing thicknesses.
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 5, 2020 at 4:31 PM Weslake1330 via Spridgets <
>> spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>>> I would contact Maniflow and ask them what the correct thickness is to
>>> establish if the exhaust is incorrect or if the inlet manifold is corre=
ct
>>> and then invite them to send a replacement part.  I'd also want to be s=
ure
>>> that something that is claimed to be made by Maniflow really is.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Daniel S
>>>
>>> On Sat, 5 Sep 2020 at 20:12, Rick Fisk via Spridgets <
>>> spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Send it all back to Maniflow and tell them to get their shxt together.
>>>> No excuse for this kind of BS.  They make both parts and they don't ma=
tch?
>>>> Ridiculous.
>>>>
>>>> Have you contacted them?
>>>>
>>>> Rick
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my keyboard
>>>>
>>>> On Sep 5, 2020, at 2:45 PM, Michael MacLean via Spridgets <
>>>> spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> =EF=BB=BF
>>>> Have the exhaust faces machined down 35 thou.  Being both Maniflo they
>>>> should have matched thicknan.  I have the LCB header (I don't know who
>>>> makes it) on my 1275 and a Titan intake manifold for my single HIF44 c=
arb.
>>>> They match perfectly. Supposed to be a standard thickness for the flan=
ges.
>>>> Mike MacLean
>>>>
>>>> On Saturday, September 5, 2020, 11:22:59 AM PDT, Hal Faulkner via
>>>> Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Listerati,
>>>> Trying to get off my rear end and make some progress in my long term
>>>> overhaul of FROG AYE, my 1960 Frogeye. The engine is now a 20 over 127=
5
>>>> with some porting, oversize valves and VP-SP3 cam. I have replaced the=
 old
>>>> 3 to one exhaust manifold with a Maniflow LCB, the intake manifold is =
also
>>>> by Maniflow, for the HS-2 carbs that came with the car.  The concern I=
 have
>>>> is that the flange is thicker on the exhaust than on the intake.  Torq=
uing
>>>> the manifolds until the exhaust just touches the block (no gasket for =
this
>>>> measurement) leaves the intake manifold with about 35 thousands play. =
 Of
>>>> course, this can be taken up in the gasket, but that leaves the washer=
 on
>>>> the intake side (of the common studs) sitting at a noticeable angle, w=
hich
>>>> ,if nothing else, doesn't look very cool.  The attached photo shows ab=
out
>>>> .035" of feeler between the washero and the intake manifold flange.  T=
he
>>>> exhaust manifold is snug.
>>>>
>>>> What would you do?
>>>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I sit corrected.=C2=A0 It&#39;s been a while since I had a=
 manifold off.=C2=A0 Seems like my=C2=A0Titan single HIF6 intake had a sepa=
rate gasked, though.=C2=A0=C2=A0</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div d=
ir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Sep 5, 2020 at 4:39 PM Weslake1330 =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:weslake1330@gmail.com";>weslake1330@gmail.com</a>&gt; =
wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0=
px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=
=3D"ltr">On the A-series it should be a single gasket that seals both the i=
nlet and the exhaust ports at the head.</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"=
><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, 5 Sep 2020 at 22:37, derf &l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:derf247@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">derf247@gmail.com<=
/a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0=
px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><=
div dir=3D"ltr">I would carefully grind washers.=C2=A0 Even if both flanges=
 are the correct thickness you will most likely have gaskets of differing=
=C2=A0thicknesses.=C2=A0=C2=A0</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=
=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Sep 5, 2020 at 4:31 PM Weslake1330 vi=
a Spridgets &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:spridgets@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blan=
k">spridgets@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gm=
ail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,=
204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">I would contact Maniflow and as=
k them what the correct thickness is to establish if the exhaust is incorre=
ct or if the inlet manifold is correct and then invite them to send a repla=
cement part.=C2=A0 I&#39;d also want to be sure that something that is clai=
med to be made by Maniflow really is.<div><br></div><div>Regards</div><div>=
<br></div><div>Daniel S</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=
=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, 5 Sep 2020 at 20:12, Rick Fisk via Sp=
ridgets &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:spridgets@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">s=
pridgets@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_=
quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,=
204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">Send it all back to Maniflow and t=
ell them to get their shxt together.=C2=A0 No excuse for this kind of BS.=
=C2=A0 They make both parts and they don&#39;t match?=C2=A0 Ridiculous. =C2=
=A0<div><br></div><div>Have you contacted them?<br><div><br></div><div>Rick=
<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my keyboard</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><b=
lockquote type=3D"cite">On Sep 5, 2020, at 2:45 PM, Michael MacLean via Spr=
idgets &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:spridgets@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">sp=
ridgets@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote=
 type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div style=3D"font-family:&quot;ti=
mes new roman&quot;,&quot;new york&quot;,times,serif;font-size:16px"><div><=
/div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr">Have the exhaust faces machined down 35 thou.=C2=
=A0 Being both Maniflo they should have matched thicknan.=C2=A0 I have the =
LCB header (I don&#39;t know who makes it) on my 1275 and a Titan intake ma=
nifold for my single HIF44 carb.=C2=A0 They match perfectly. Supposed to be=
 a standard thickness for the flanges. <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Mike MacL=
ean<br></div><div><br></div>
       =20
        </div><div id=3D"gmail-m_1978463200746051271gmail-m_288222013770780=
1936gmail-m_8194808682426589770gmail-m_-5428346373491654872gmail-m_-8959562=
192658747527yahoo_quoted_9803739150">
            <div style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,Helvetica,=
Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:rgb(38,40,42)">
               =20
                <div>
                    On Saturday, September 5, 2020, 11:22:59 AM PDT, Hal Fa=
ulkner via Spridgets &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:spridgets@autox.team.net"; target=
=3D"_blank">spridgets@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:
                </div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><div id=3D"gmail-m_1978463200746051271gmail-m_28822201=
37707801936gmail-m_8194808682426589770gmail-m_-5428346373491654872gmail-m_-=
8959562192658747527yiv2032276708"><div dir=3D"ltr">Listerati,<div>Trying to=
 get off my rear end and make some progress in my long term overhaul of FRO=
G AYE, my 1960 Frogeye. The engine is now a 20 over 1275 with some porting,=
 oversize valves and VP-SP3 cam. I have replaced the old 3 to one exhaust m=
anifold=C2=A0with a Maniflow LCB, the intake manifold is also by Maniflow, =
for the HS-2 carbs that came with the car.=C2=A0 The concern I have is that=
 the flange is thicker on the exhaust than on the intake.=C2=A0 Torquing th=
e manifolds until the exhaust just touches the block (no gasket for this me=
asurement) leaves the intake manifold with about 35 thousands play.=C2=A0 O=
f course, this can be taken up in the gasket, but that leaves the washer on=
 the intake side (of the common studs) sitting at a noticeable angle, which=
 ,if nothing else, doesn&#39;t look very cool.=C2=A0 The attached photo sho=
ws about .035&quot; of feeler between the washero and the intake manifold f=
lange.=C2=A0 The exhaust manifold is snug.=C2=A0=C2=A0</div><div><br></div>=
<div>What would you do?=C2=A0=C2=A0</div><div><br></div></div></div>-------=
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