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That's a great suggestion Rick, but none of the marinas around here carry a=
nything other than 10% ethanol lead-free regular and premium, plus diesel.
Howard
In a message dated 7/22/2020 3:17:16 PM Eastern Standard Time, refisk@chart=
ermi.net writes:
Howard,
Look for "Rec" gas. =C2=A0Around here the alcohol feee stuff is called "rec=
reation gas" and it's intended use is boats. =C2=A0But it's perfectly legal=
to use it in a street car. =C2=A0Here it usually costs about a dollar a ga=
llon more the the gas with ethanol, unless you buy it at a marina. =C2=A011=
0 octane leaded race gas is available at many gas stations here too, only $=
6.99 a gallon. =C2=A0:-)
Rick
Sent from my keyboard
On Jul 22, 2020, at 2:55 PM, miniac7--- via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team=
.net> wrote:
The reason I asked about the fuel tank sealer is that I recently had a tank=
which had been sealed, where the sealer disintegrated, and clogged up one =
of the filters which resulted in intermittent running.
Speaking of Ethanol fuel, I am going to start using Ethanol-free fuel for m=
y LBC's.
The good news is, the closest station listed on the Puregas web site is a S=
unoco station about 20 minutes from my home. The bad news is, they only car=
ry 110 octane racing fuel in Ethanol-free at $8/gallon.
The next closest station is about 45 minutes away, but well worth the drive=
. I guess I'll be stocking up on some additional 6 gallon fuel jugs.
https://www.pure-gas.org/
Howard Collins
In a message dated 7/22/2020 2:37:17 PM Eastern Standard Time, rrengineer.m=
ike@att.net writes:
Tank was originally rebuilt by Renuzit which probably coated the interior w=
ith something, but that was over 20 years ago.=C2=A0 Fuel filter looks fine=
.=C2=A0 It is one of the clear plastic VW type filters.=C2=A0 I can't see a=
nything from the outside of the filter, but that does not mean it is not pl=
ugged.=C2=A0 Yes, I have tried running the fuel pump with the gas cap off a=
nd it was still cavitating.=C2=A0 It only started pumping again after I dis=
connected the fuel line from the filter near the carb.=C2=A0 Today I am goi=
ng to disconnect the fuel line on the other side of the filter and try it a=
gain.=C2=A0 Also going to lift the rear of the car and check the fuel line =
from the pump to the tank.=C2=A0 Maybe ethanol has done it's damage to the =
rubber line.Mike MacLean
On Wednesday, July 22, 2020, 10:25:15 AM PDT, miniac7--- via Spridgets <spr=
idgets@autox.team.net> wrote:
I have more questions than answers right now:
... Was this tank ever sealed with a chemical fuel tank sealer?
... How does the fuel filter look?
... Have you tried running the engine with the fuel tank cap removed?
Howard Collins
In a message dated 7/22/2020 10:46:13 AM Eastern Standard Time, spridgets@a=
utox.team.net writes:
Alrighty then! ( Ace Ventura moment!)I am smelling a rat in the fuel delive=
ry system not the carb!First is your fuel pump set up at the tank or in the=
engine compartment?=C2=A0 =C2=A0That's a beginning.=C2=A0 =C2=A0Pumps seem=
to like being close to the tank pushing fuel as opposed to being well away=
from the tank and pulling fuel.These fuel tanks have a fixed pick up tube =
in them that can be a real pain in the posterior if anything has obstructed=
the tube , end of the tube rusted off or a tank sealer applied and glued t=
he tube shut or tank sealer applied wrong & peeling off , clogging the pick=
up tube.=C2=A0 =C2=A0Another fun one ( happened to my car early in my owner=
ship!) Is the lost has cap , rag stuffed in the filler neck and OOPS , rag =
ended up in the tank!=C2=A0 =C2=A0Does nothing initially but eventually the=
electric pump sucked the tag against th e pickup tube , and sediment foule=
d the rag and it acted like a blocked fuel filter.=C2=A0 Started , ran for =
a bit and would quit...=C2=A0 That drove me crazy until I dropped the tank =
, pulled the sending unit and looks into the tank !
Mike somewhere you have a restriction keeping your fuel from freely flowin=
g from the pickup in the tank to feed your pump.=C2=A0 =C2=A0Possibly an in=
ternally collapsing rubber fuel line connecting pump to tank?=C2=A0 =C2=A0T=
his ethanol fuel has done some rather odd stuff to rubber components over t=
ime.Just some thoughts which might point you in a direction of discovering =
what is wrong.Chuck
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<div><span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;
color: #000000;">That's a great suggestion Rick, but none of the marinas around
here carry anything other than 10% ethanol lead-free regular and premium, plus
diesel.</span></div>
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<div><span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;
color: #000000;">Howard</span></div>
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<div>Howard,
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<div>Look for "Rec" gas. Around here the alcohol feee stuff is called
"recreation gas" and it's intended use is boats. But it's perfectly legal
to use it in a street car. Here it usually costs about a dollar a gallon
more the the gas with ethanol, unless you buy it at a marina. 110 octane
leaded race gas is available at many gas stations here too, only $6.99 a
gallon. :-)</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Rick</div>
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<div dir="ltr">Sent from my keyboard</div>
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<blockquote>On Jul 22, 2020, at 2:55 PM, miniac7--- via Spridgets
<spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:<br clear="none"><br
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<div><span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;
color: #000000;">The reason I asked about the fuel tank sealer is that I
recently had a tank which had been sealed, where the sealer disintegrated, and
clogged up one of the filters which resulted in intermittent running.<br
clear="none"></span></div>
<div><br></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;
color: #000000;">Speaking of Ethanol fuel, I am going to start using
Ethanol-free fuel for my LBC's.<br clear="none"></span></div>
<div><br></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;
color: #000000;">The good news is, the closest station listed on the Puregas
web site is a Sunoco station about 20 minutes from my home. The bad news is,
they only carry 110 octane racing fuel in Ethanol-free at
$8/gallon.</span></div>
<div><br></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;
color: #000000;">The next closest station is about 45 minutes away, but well
worth the drive. I guess I'll be stocking up on some additional 6 gallon fuel
jugs.</span></div>
<div><br></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;
color: #000000;"><a href="https://www.pure-gas.org/"; target="_blank"
rel="noopener noreferrer"
shape="rect">https://www.pure-gas.org/</a></span></div>
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<div><span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;
color: #000000;">Howard Collins</span></div>
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In a message dated 7/22/2020 2:37:17 PM Eastern Standard Time, <a
href="mailto:rrengineer.mike@att.net"; target="_blank" rel="noopener
noreferrer">rrengineer.mike@att.net</a> writes:
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<div dir="ltr">Tank was originally rebuilt by Renuzit which probably coated the
interior with something, but that was over 20 years ago. Fuel filter
looks fine. It is one of the clear plastic VW type filters. I can't
see anything from the outside of the filter, but that does not mean it is not
plugged. Yes, I have tried running the fuel pump with the gas cap off and
it was still cavitating. It only started pumping again after I
disconnected the fuel line from the filter near the carb. Today I am
going to disconnect the fuel line on the other side of the filter and try it
again. Also going to lift the rear of the car and check the fuel line
from the pump to the tank. Maybe ethanol has done it's damage to the
rubber line.</div>
<div dir="ltr">Mike MacLean</div>
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<div><span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;
color: #000000;">I have more questions than answers right now:</span></div>
<div><br></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;
color: #000000;">... Was this tank ever sealed with a chemical fuel tank
sealer?</span></div>
<div><br></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;
color: #000000;">... How does the fuel filter look?</span></div>
<div><br></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;
color: #000000;">... Have you tried running the engine with the fuel tank cap
removed?</span></div>
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<div><span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;
color: #000000;">Howard Collins</span></div>
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<div>Alrighty then! ( Ace Ventura moment!)</div>
<div>I am smelling a rat in the fuel delivery system not the carb!</div>
<div>First is your fuel pump set up at the tank or in the engine
compartment? That's a beginning. Pumps seem to like
being close to the tank pushing fuel as opposed to being well away from the
tank and pulling fuel.</div>
<div>These fuel tanks have a fixed pick up tube in them that can be a real pain
in the posterior if anything has obstructed the tube , end of the tube rusted
off or a tank sealer applied and glued the tube shut or tank sealer applied
wrong & peeling off , clogging the pickup tube. Another fun one
( happened to my car early in my ownership!) Is the lost has cap , rag stuffed
in the filler neck and OOPS , rag ended up in the tank! Does
nothing initially but eventually the electric pump sucked the tag against th e
pickup tube , and sediment fouled the rag and it acted like a blocked fuel
filter. Started , ran for a bit and would quit... That drove me
crazy until I dropped the tank , pulled the sending unit and looks into the
tank !<br> </div>
<div>Mike somewhere you have a restriction keeping your fuel from freely
flowing from the pickup in the tank to feed your pump. Possibly an
internally collapsing rubber fuel line connecting pump to tank?
This ethanol fuel has done some rather odd stuff to rubber components
over time.</div>
<div>Just some thoughts which might point you in a direction of discovering
what is wrong.</div>
<div>Chuck</div>
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