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The number plate on a Bugeye does not fall off on it's own. But they were f=
astened to the car with crosshead screws. To many people that means take it=
off when doing a "restoration". And then for whatever reason the plate doe=
s not get reinstalled.
The fact that the car has been registered in two different states indicates t=
o me that it's probably OK. But check the other locations for numbers. :-)=
Sent from my keyboard
> On Mar 24, 2015, at 6:46 AM, GUY DAY via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.n=
et> wrote:
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> Should you be wary about anomalies such as this? If you had ever been the=
owner of a car stolen from you then this would ring very loud warning bells=
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> If the engine is meant to be original then look for the aluminium engine n=
umber plate riveted on a horizontal platform towards the front of the block.=
Has that gone missing as well? Then you go looking for paint colour oddit=
ies and because it is a 50 year old car there is guaranteed to be something.=
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> There can be 1001 good, honest reasons for the oddities with this motor bu=
t will you be thinking, in the back of your mind, that this was someone's pr=
ide and joy before it was taken and changed into what is seen before me. If=
you don't get it then some else will and does your inner voice say, 'Its a 5=
0 odd year old car, there are bound to be some faults', or does it say, 'Thi=
s car isn't right, stay well clear'.
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> Identifying plates do not normally fall off on their own and my 45 year ol=
d Sprite has them where they should be. It is not just the anomaly in the n=
umber it is the reason the anomaly has arisen that should be looked into.
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> Sorry to be so negative but as an owner who has had cars taken (yes, plura=
l) it does bring things to the fore again.
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> Guy R Day=20
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> From: Bob Spruck via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
> To: Spridget list <Spridgets@autox.team.net>=20
> Sent: Tuesday, 24 March 2015, 1:30
> Subject: [Spridgets] VIN number issue
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> On a Bugeye I am interested in, I have discovered an apparent anomaly in t=
he year and VIN. The car has no VIN plate but is considered to be a 1961 Mk1=
and has been registered in two states as such. However, the VIN is listed o=
n both registrations as AN5L xxxx. Since they made, what, 59,000 Bugeyes and=
ended in 1961, a car considered a '61 should have a five digit number, some=
where approaching 59,000. If the four digit number is correct, it should be,=
I expect, maybe a '59.=20
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> Is there any other place that the VIN appears? Or any other way of determi=
ning the true VIN number or true year of manufacture?
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> Perhaps I should just leave well enough alone?
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> Bob Spruck
> Sharpsburg, GA=20
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> '72 Midget
> '67 Midget Vintage Racer
> Maybe a '59 or '61 Bugeye
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div>The number plate on a Bugeye does not f=
all off on it's own. But they were fastened to the car with crosshead s=
crews. To many people that means take it off when doing a "restoration=
". And then for whatever reason the plate does not get reinstalled.</d=
iv><div><br></div><div>The fact that the car has been registered in two diff=
erent states indicates to me that it's probably OK. But check the othe=
r locations for numbers. :-)<br><br>Sent from my keyboard</div><div><b=
r>On Mar 24, 2015, at 6:46 AM, GUY DAY via Spridgets <<a href=3D"mailto:s=
pridgets@autox.team.net">spridgets@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br><br></di=
v><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:=
#fff; font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span>Sh=
ould you be wary about anomalies such as this? If you had ever been th=
e owner of a car stolen from you then this would ring very loud warning bell=
s. </span></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; fon=
t-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-style: normal; background-color=
: transparent;"><span>If the engine is meant to be original then look for th=
e aluminium engine number plate riveted on a horizontal platform towards the=
front of the block. Has that gone missing as well? Then you go l=
ooking for paint colour oddities and because it is a 50 year old car there i=
s guaranteed to be something. </span></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0=
, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-style=
: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span><br></span></div><div style=3D=
"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-s=
erif; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span>There can be=
1001 good, honest reasons for the oddities with this motor but will you be t=
hinking, in the back of your mind, that this was someone's pride and joy bef=
ore it was taken and changed into what is seen before me. If you don't=
get it then some else will and does your inner voice say, 'Its a 50 odd yea=
r old car, there are bound to be some faults', or does it say, 'This car isn=
't right, stay well clear'.</span></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); f=
ont-size: 16px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-style: norma=
l; background-color: transparent;"><span><br></span></div><div style=3D"colo=
r: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;=
font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span>Identifying plate=
s do not normally fall off on their own and my 45
year old Sprite has them where they should be. It is not just the ano=
maly in the number it is the reason the anomaly has arisen that should be lo=
oked into.</span></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; f=
ont-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-style: normal; background-col=
or: transparent;"><span><br></span></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); f=
ont-size: 16px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-style: norma=
l; background-color: transparent;"><span>Sorry to be so negative but as an o=
wner who has had cars taken (yes, plural) it does bring things to the fore a=
gain.</span></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-f=
amily: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-style: normal; background-color: t=
ransparent;"><span><br></span></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-=
size: 16px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-style: normal; b=
ackground-color: transparent;"><span><br></span></div><div style=3D"color: r=
gb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; fon=
t-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span>Guy R Day </span=
></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: aria=
l, helvetica, sans-serif; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;=
"><span><br></span></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px;=
font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-style: normal; background-c=
olor: transparent;"><span><br></span></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0)=
; font-size: 16px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-style: no=
rmal; background-color: transparent;"><span><br></span></div><div style=3D"c=
olor: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-ser=
if; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span><br></span></d=
iv><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: arial, h=
elvetica, sans-serif; font-style: normal;
background-color: transparent;"><span><br></span></div><div><br></div> <di=
v style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <di=
v style=3D"font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-si=
ze: 12pt;"> <div dir=3D"ltr"> <hr size=3D"1"> <font size=3D"2" face=3D"Aria=
l"> <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Bob Spruck via Spr=
idgets <<a href=3D"mailto:spridgets@autox.team.net";>spridgets@autox.team.=
net</a>><br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Spridge=
t list <<a href=3D"mailto:Spridgets@autox.team.net";>Spridgets@autox.team.=
net</a>> <br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Tues=
day, 24 March 2015, 1:30<br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Subject:<=
/span></b> [Spridgets] VIN number issue<br> </font> </div> <div class=3D"y_m=
sg_container"><br><div id=3D"yiv3585207165">
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<font size=3D"+1"><font face=3D"Arial">On a Bugeye I am interested in, I=
have discovered an apparent anomaly in the year and VIN. The car
has no VIN plate but is considered to be a 1961 Mk1 and has been
registered in two states as such. However, the VIN is listed on
both registrations as AN5L xxxx. Since they made, what, 59,000
Bugeyes and ended in 1961, a car considered a '61 should have a
five digit number, somewhere approaching 59,000. If the four
digit number is correct, it should be, I expect, maybe a '59. <br>
<br>
Is there any other place that the VIN appears? Or any other way
of determining the true VIN number or true year of manufacture?<br>
<br>
Perhaps I should just leave well enough alone?<br>
<br>
Bob Spruck<br>
Sharpsburg, GA <br>
<br>
'72 Midget<br>
'67 Midget Vintage Racer<br>
Maybe a '59 or '61 Bugeye<br>
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