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Re: Swing axle - Was driver's side lean

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Subject: Re: Swing axle - Was driver's side lean
From: "Nolan Penney" <npenney@mde.state.md.us>
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 08:26:24 -0400
They both are transverse mounted leaf springs.  

The earlier spring is a fixed perch, bolted directly to the differential.  
Since the differential is bolted to the frame, you can think of this type of 
spring as being bolted directly to the frame.  As a result of being bolted to 
the frame, this spring will resist body roll.

A true swing spring on the other hand, is mounted on a pivot at the frame 
mount.  As such, it cannot resist body roll.  It just rotates about the pivot.  
 It will resist total weight loading only.  A vehicle with a true swing spring 
in the rear (like many Formula V's) will have all roll resistance performed by 
the front suspension.  This makes jacking the front end of one off the ground 
somewhat interesting as the vehicle will flop over once both front wheels are 
off the ground.

The late Spitfires do not have a true swing spring.  They have a hybrid 
combination.  You may find it easiest to think of the car as having to separate 
rear springs.  

The first is a fixed spring.  It happens to be the lower leaf of the entire 
spring pack.  It resists body roll.  Since it is just one leaf, any frailties 
with this leaf become very evident and pronounced.  The amount of body roll 
resistance is also rather minimal due to it being just a single leaf.  

The second is the true swing spring.  It happens to be the rest of the spring 
pack.  This pivots freely about the pin in the mounting box.  There is zero 
roll resistance from this spring...technically.  Due to various bindings, there 
is some roll resistance.  

I know in a previous post I made it sound as if there is no way a swing spring 
can affect lean.  In a perfect world, that would be true.  But if the swing 
spring is hanging up on the pivot, it will contribute to lean.  And in the case 
of the Spitfire, the lower leaf fatiguing can contribute since it's not a swing 
spring.  As can binding between the lower leaf and the swinging spring pack 
right above it.

>>> "John T. Blair" <jblair1948@COX.NET> 04/15/04 06:13PM >>>
I keep hearing about the differences in the rear ends of the 2 Spits.  But
when I look at the shop manuals for the 2 cars, I don't really see any
difference.  So what am I missing, and what's the difference between
the 2 system?


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