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Re: POR15

To: Nolan Penney <npenney@mde.state.md.us>
Subject: Re: POR15
From: Vic Whitmore <vicwhit@home.com>
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 09:35:09 -0400
You may be right on the mix up with Chassis Black. POR-15 is not thick unless
moisture gets to it. Even then it will still harden up, much harder than paint.

I have never used the silver but it doesn't sound very good if the rust bleeds
through. Maybe two coats would have been better.

Vic W.

Nolan Penney wrote:
> 
> It's odd to me the failures I and others have had with it.  Myself, as soon 
>as I opened
> the can I was concerned because the stuff is so thick.  Thick materials don't 
>soak in
> and bond with surface rust, they just can't.  To work with rust, the 
>materials got to be
> thin.  So I wasn't terribly surprised when I could lift it right off the  
>rusty metal.   Yes,
> the rusty metal was wire brushed down to solid rust (if there really is such 
>a thing), and
> cleaned well.  I also tried it over bare steel (better results), painted 
>surfaces (horrible
> results) and flaky rust.
> 
> I've come to recently suspect though that the company mislabled cans.  My 
>POR-15
> never cured hard, it stayed flexible.  POR-15 isn't supposed to do that, it's 
>supposed
> to become very hard.  The company now has a section of their web site 
>dedicated to
> giving warnings about the mistake of using their chassis black instead of 
>their POR-15,
>  with the resulting problems being described exactly as I encountered with 
>the black
> POR-15.  Seems to me a backhanded way of admitting they screwed up a whole 
>bunch
> of cans of POR-15 by dumping chassis black paint into them and selling them to
> customers as POR-15...maybe.
> 
> The others I know who had failures almost all used the silver paint.  Now 
>they didn't
> have it peel off like I did, it just bled and burst through with rust, like 
>if you sprayed
> generic primer over rusty metal.  It looks like, and acts like, cheap silver 
>paint.
> 
> >>> Vic Whitmore <vicwhit@home.com> 09/13 4:47 PM >>>
> 
> I must admit, Nolan, that I did not use POR-15 on rusty surfaces. All my rusty
> surfaces were cleaned to bare metal as best as possible, thoroughly washed in
> Castrol Superclean, rinsed in very hot water, and then air dried. This left a
> dull finish that took the POR-15 very well.
> 
> I have never had a problem of peeling or chipping. POR-15 has been on my upper
> and lower A-arms, sway bar, front brake dust shield, and wheel spindles for 2
> years. Am I just lucky, or was it good preparation? I think it was the prep.
> 
> I have no interest in the company, nor sell the stuff, but I will continue to
> use it in the future.
> 
> So there you have it folks... some like it and some don't.
> 
> Vic Whitmore
> 76 Spitfire
> Thornhill, Ontario
> 
> Nolan Penney wrote:
> >
> > Best of luck to you.  I thought the stuff was garbage, as has every person 
>I've
> > ever met face to face who's used it.  No penetration through the rust so it
> > does not bond worth a darn.  You can peel it right back off, and admire
> > the rusty surface underneath.  The silver lets rust bleed right through.
> > Great waste of money.
> >
> > >>> Robert Gunther <rjgunthe@bellatlantic.net> 09/13 10:18 AM >>>
> >
> > Anyone have any experience using POR15 on surface rust??

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