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My garage has 12 4 foot 2 tube fixtures. about 5 years ago I dumped all
the fluorescent bulbs and ballasts and went to led. Tombstones were fast
and easy to change. Only need to do 1 end. Rewiring took 5 minutes per
fixture. I used all 5000k daylight bulbs. Tremendous difference. I now
have light in corners that were just shadows. I am in NW Ohio where it
gets very cold. I put some in my shed and trailer with no heat and they
come on immediately. I don't know for you if 4 foot or 8 foot will be
cheaper but I do know I would do it again. Actually option 1 sounds like
the way to go if 1 8 foot ballast will light 2 4 foot bulbs. I don't
know that answer. If you need to buy more ballasts that could be bad. I
used all no-ballast bulbs. Good luck.
On 10/19/2026 1:09 PM, john niolon wrote:
> Hi all
> My 30 year old 8' t-12 (single pin)Â garage fixtures are slowly
> dying...(4 total double tube)
> the old t-12s are hard to find and expensive (16-20 bucks a tube)
> Want to change to led... lots of options - 8' led tubes are expensive
> too ...
> I was gifted a box of 20 4' bi-pin bulbs that work with a
> ballast...(heat sink)
> option 1
> if I use these I'd have to change all the tombstones to bi-pin and
> figure out the
> shunted vs non shunted type... AND find the 8' to 4' fixture
> conversion kits (adding the middle tombstones
> option 2
> 8' type a led single pin tubes (about the same price as 8'
> fluorescent) and use a ballast
> not great reviews when shipped...
> option 3
> replace all the crap with the internet specials linkable stick lights
> and hope they work
> comments on options ????
> questions... when using the ballast type plug and plays... aren't I
> using more electricity using the ballast
> and heating it up... is there any savings here ???
> please educate the old dummy on best (least expensive) options
>
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<p>My garage has 12 4 foot 2 tube fixtures. about 5 years ago I
dumped all the fluorescent bulbs and ballasts and went to led.
Tombstones were fast and easy to change. Only need to do 1 end.
Rewiring took 5 minutes per fixture. I used all 5000k daylight
bulbs. Tremendous difference. I now have light in corners that
were just shadows. I am in NW Ohio where it gets very cold. I put
some in my shed and trailer with no heat and they come on
immediately. I don't know for you if 4 foot or 8 foot will be
cheaper but I do know I would do it again. Actually option 1
sounds like the way to go if 1 8 foot ballast will light 2 4 foot
bulbs. I don't know that answer. If you need to buy more ballasts
that could be bad. I used all no-ballast bulbs. Good luck.</p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/19/2026 1:09 PM, john niolon
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<div><font face="Segoe UI">Hi all</font></div>
<div>Â </div>
<div><font face="Segoe UI">My 30 year old 8' t-12 (single
pin)Â garage fixtures are slowly dying...(4 total double
tube)</font></div>
<div><font face="Segoe UI">the old t-12s are hard to find and
expensive (16-20 bucks a tube)</font></div>
<div>Â </div>
<div><font face="Segoe UI">Want to change to led... lots of
options - 8' led tubes are expensive too ... </font></div>
<div>Â </div>
<div><font face="Segoe UI">I was gifted a box of 20 4' bi-pin
bulbs that work with a ballast...(heat sink)</font></div>
<div>Â </div>
<div><font face="Segoe UI">option 1 </font></div>
<div><font face="Segoe UI">if I use these I'd have to change all
the tombstones to bi-pin and figure out the</font></div>
<div><font face="Segoe UI">shunted vs non shunted type... AND
find the 8' to 4' fixture conversion kits (adding the middle
tombstones</font></div>
<div>Â </div>
<div><font face="Segoe UI">option 2</font></div>
<div><font face="Segoe UI">8' type a led single pin tubes (about
the same price as 8' fluorescent) and use a ballast</font></div>
<div><font face="Segoe UI">not great reviews when shipped...</font></div>
<div>Â </div>
<div><font face="Segoe UI">option 3</font></div>
<div>Â </div>
<div><font face="Segoe UI">replace all the crap with the internet
specials linkable stick lights and hope they work</font></div>
<div>Â </div>
<div><font face="Segoe UI">comments on options ????</font></div>
<div>Â </div>
<div><font face="Segoe UI">questions... when using the ballast
type plug and plays... aren't I using more electricity using
the ballast </font></div>
<div><font face="Segoe UI">and heating it up... is there any
savings here ???</font></div>
<div>Â </div>
<div>Â </div>
<div><font face="Segoe UI">please educate the old dummy on best
(least expensive) options</font></div>
<div>Â </div>
<div>Â </div>
<div>Â </div>
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