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Subject: [Shop-talk] flourescent to led changeover
From: "john niolon" <jniolon@att.net>
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2026 12:09:24 -0500
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Hi all
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My 30 year old=20
8' t-12 (single pin) garage fixtures are slowly dying...(4 total double tub=
e)
the old t-12s are hard to find and expensive (16-20 bucks a tube)
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Want to change to led... lots of options  - 8'=20
led tubes are expensive too ...=20
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I was gifted a box of 20=20
4' bi-pin bulbs that work with a ballast...(heat sink)
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option 1=20
if I use these I'd=20
have to change all the tombstones to bi-pin and figure out the
shunted vs non shunted type...  AND find the 8' to 4' fixture conversion ki=
ts=20
(adding the middle tombstones
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option 2
8' type a led single pin tubes (about the same price as 8' fluorescent) and=
 use=20
a ballast
not great reviews when shipped...
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option 3
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replace all the crap with the internet specials  linkable stick lights and =
hope=20
they work
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comments on options ????
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questions... when using the ballast type plug and plays... aren't I using m=
ore electricity using the ballast=20
and heating it up... is there any savings here ???
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please educate the old dummy on best (least expensive) options
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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI">Hi all</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI">My 30 year old 8' t-12 (single pin)&nbsp;garag=
e fixtures are slowly dying...(4 total double tube)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI">the old t-12s are hard to find and expensive (=
16-20 bucks a tube)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI">Want to change to led... lots of options&nbsp;=
 - 8' led tubes are expensive too ... </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI">I was gifted a box of 20 4' bi-pin bulbs that =
work with a ballast...(heat sink)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI">option 1 </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI">if I use these I'd have to change all the tomb=
stones to bi-pin and figure out the</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI">shunted vs non shunted type...&nbsp; AND find =
the 8' to 4' fixture conversion kits (adding the middle tombstones</FONT></=
DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI">option 2</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI">8' type a led single pin tubes (about the same=
 price as 8' fluorescent) and use a ballast</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI">not great reviews when shipped...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI">option 3</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI">replace all the crap with the internet special=
s&nbsp; linkable stick lights and hope they work</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI">comments on options ????</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI">questions... when using the ballast type plug =
and plays... aren't I using more electricity using the ballast </FONT></DIV=
>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI">and heating it up... is there any savings here=
 ???</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI">please educate the old dummy on best (least ex=
pensive) options</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV></BODY></HTML>
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