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well that is an unusual development... moved the laptop to sit right next t=
o=20
the Orbi modem
five speedtest gave me 25-30 mb download and a little less upload with late=
ncy=20
around45 ms
=20
took it back to the shop sitting next to the satellite and got 50-60 mb dow=
n=20
and 40-=3D50 up with less latency
=20
so I'm assuming it's just my old slow laptop as=20
ya'll say...just like me old and slow
=20
My Orbi is a model RBR10 app version2.42.0.56
=20
firmware version v2.7.3.22
=20
I've=20
started looking online for refurbed units...=20
I've been using a refurbed DELL Optiflex 990 for several years with no prob=
lems
they are getting cheaper every day... and I've=20
got room for a small form factor and monitor in the shop... might just go t=
hat=20
way
=20
if ya'll have any suggestions on the refurbs... I'm all ears
=20
thanks for all the input
john
----- Original Message -----
From: MIQ MILLMAN <miq@bigllama.com>
To: john niolon <jniolon@att.net>
Cc: shop-talk <shop-talk@autox.team.net>
Sent: 1/2/2025 3:26:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] shop internet connection
As others have said, the old laptop is probably running within specs. Wifi=
-BGN=20
is going to peak throughput of about 38-40 mbps.=20
The latest spec for Wifi (aka Wifi-6) is 802.11ax or just AX as a designati=
on=20
to differentiate from the past "livingroom" standard of 802.11ac.
Both of these are overkill for what you want/need, ac peaks at 3.5Gbps, and=
ax=20
peaks at 9.6Gbps.
The Toshiba you have also has a limit of 100 Mbps on the ethernet port buil=
t=20
in. So, even if you went with a cheap "hardwire solution" and tried to=20
connect a switch to the ethernet port on the Orbi, you would still be limit=
ed=20
to what the older laptop can manage.
It's also possible that the version Orbi you have is only capable of 802.11=
ac, you don't=20
mention which version you have, but they still sell/support the older versi=
ons,=20
and the price is rather steep for the latest versions
Even if you were to replace/upgrade to a usb dongle wifi connection, it wou=
ld=20
be limited to the speed of USB 2.0 and the older bus speeds in the Toshiba.=
=20
Also not sure that spending $35 on a wifi adapter is the best use of funds.=
=2E..=20
(e.g. TP-Link AX1800 can plug into a standard USB a port, but the laptop w=
ould=20
not be able to support the speeds.)
If you are on a budget, I would look at chromebooks as an option,=20
here's a not terrible option from Lenovo for $250 from the 'zon:
https://a.co/d/am8aVRV
All that said, most of the world runs just fine on 20-30 Mbps.
--Miq
On Thu, Jan 2, 2025 at 10:34=E2=80=AFAM john niolon <jniolon@att.net> wrote=
:
I'm trying to get better internet connectivity in my detached garage/shop. =
First tried hardwired cat-5 but it was right at the limit for distance and=
slow and intermittent. Next went with power line adapters and while they =
were consistent in connection...speed was still slower than I wanted...
=20
This Christmas my s-I-l gave me a Orbi mesh system and we installed it with=
no problem putting one satellite box IN the garage and the master box sitt=
ing on top of my fiber modem hard wired to the modem.
=20
I have 300mb fiber from ATT and the speed is great (350-375 MB) to hardwire=
d pc and around 140 mb on ipad in the house or in the garage. =20
I have an older laptop I use in the shop (Toshiba Satellite L875D-st210) wh=
ich is my primary shop machine. Best speed I can get is 30-40 mb.
while the tablet sitting next to it is 140 mb+.
=20
I'm=20
wondering if the old laptop has a wireless card that is old and slower? =20
Everything I knew about computers is old and obsolete after 20 years out of=
the=20
business. Can someone with current knowledge tell me if the problem is wit=
h an=20
antiquated card in the laptop and is there a way to get better wireless spe=
ed=20
on the laptop? or is that just the nature of wireless nowadays? BTW the la=
ptop=20
is running windows 7 with no options to run win 10.
=20
=20
thanks
John
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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI">well that is an unusual development... moved t=
he laptop to sit right next to the Orbi modem</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI">five speedtest gave me 25-30 mb download and a=
little less upload with latency around45 ms</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI"></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI">took it back to the shop sitting next to the s=
atellite and got 50-60 mb down and 40-=3D50 up with less latency</FONT></DI=
V>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI"></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI">so I'm assuming it's just my old slow laptop a=
s ya'll say...just like me old and slow</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI"></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI">My Orbi is a model RBR10 app versi=
on2.42</FONT><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI">.0.56</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI"></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI">firmware version v2.7.3.22</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI"></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI">I've started looking online for refurbed units=
=2E.. I've been using a refurbed DELL Optiflex 990 for several years with n=
o problems</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI">they are getting cheaper every day... and I've=
got room for a small form factor and monitor in the shop... might just go =
that way</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI"></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI">if ya'll have any suggestions on the refurbs..=
=2E I'm all ears</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI"></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI"> thanks for all the input</FONT></=
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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI">john</FONT></DIV>
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Subject:</B> Re: [Shop-talk] shop internet connection</DIV>
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<DIV dir=3Dltr>As others have said, the old laptop is probably running with=
in specs. Wifi-BGN is going to peak throughput of about 38-40 mb=
ps.=20
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>The latest spec for Wifi (aka Wifi-6) is 802.11ax or just AX as a desi=
gnation to differentiate from the past "livingroom" standard of 802.11ac.</=
DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Both of these are overkill for what you want/need, ac peaks at 3.5Gbps=
, and ax peaks at 9.6Gbps.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>The Toshiba you have also has a limit of 100 Mbps on the ethernet port=
built in. So, even if you went with a cheap "hardwire solution=
" and tried to connect a switch to the ethernet port on the Orbi, you would=
still be limited to what the older laptop can manage.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>It's also possible that the version Orbi you have is only capable of 8=
02.11ac, you don't mention which version you have, but they still sell/supp=
ort the older versions, and the price is rather steep for the latest v=
ersions</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Even if you were to replace/upgrade to a usb dongle wifi connection, i=
t would be limited to the speed of USB 2.0 and the older bus speeds in the =
Toshiba. Also not sure that spending $35 on a wifi adapter is the bes=
t use of funds.... (e.g. TP-Link AX1800 can plug into a standard USB =
a port, but the laptop would not be able to support the speeds.)</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>If you are on a budget, I would look at chromebooks as an option, =
;</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>here's a not terrible option from Lenovo for $250 from the 'zon:</DIV>
<DIV><A href=3D"https://a.co/d/am8aVRV";>https://a.co/d/am8aVRV</A></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>All that said, most of the world runs just fine on 20-30 Mbps.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV> --Miq<BR>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV></DIV></DIV><BR>
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<DIV class=3Dgmail_attr dir=3Dltr>On Thu, Jan 2, 2025 at 10:34=E2=80=AFAM j=
ohn niolon <<A href=3D"mailto:jniolon@att.net";>jniolon@att.net</A>> w=
rote:<BR></DIV>
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<DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI">I'm trying to get better internet connectivity=
in my detached garage/shop. First tried hardwired cat-5 but it was r=
ight at the limit for distance and slow and intermittent. Next went w=
ith power line adapters and while they were consistent in connection...spee=
d was still slower than I wanted...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI"></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI">This Christmas my s-I-l gave me a Orbi mesh sy=
stem and we installed it with no problem putting one satellite box IN the g=
arage and the master box sitting on top of my fiber modem hard wired to the=
modem.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI"></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI">I have 300mb fiber from ATT and the speed is g=
reat (350-375 MB) to hardwired pc and around 140 mb on ipad in the hou=
se or in the garage. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI">I have an older laptop I use in the shop (Tosh=
iba Satellite L875D-st210) which is my primary shop machine. Best spe=
ed I can get is 30-40 mb.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI">while the tablet sitting next to it is 140 mb+=
=2E</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI"></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI">I'm wondering if the old laptop has a wireless=
card that is old and slower? Everything I knew about computers is ol=
d and obsolete after 20 years out of the business. Can someone with c=
urrent knowledge tell me if the problem is with an antiquated card in the l=
aptop and is there a way to get better wireless speed on the laptop? =
or is that just the nature of wireless nowadays? BTW the laptop i=
s running windows 7 with no options to run win 10.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI"></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI"></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI">thanks</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI">John</FONT></DIV></DIV>_______________________=
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