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Re: [Shop-talk] automotive connector breakout wires

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Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] automotive connector breakout wires
From: David Scheidt <dmscheidt@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 23 May 2024 13:56:06 -0500
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References: <OF3B0C5169.BF89C8BE-ON85258B20.00540261-85258B20.0054B515@mail.megageek.com> <664ecd40.050a0220.5228e.2c33SMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com> <CAJhezSdWJ9WPxhAdn_YM+g0ZPiKaifpw0P+KH+bsuxuiUb_qAA@mail.gmail.com> <664f5ee5.a70a0220.502f7.ebe3SMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com> <CAO8Q7CO4korZd+NNJMUqdHTPJ5TYw85LVT2u=w2gORrUx2XdTQ@mail.gmail.com>
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On Thu, May 23, 2024 at 11:21=E2=80=AFAM Jeff Scarbrough <fishplate@gmail.c=
om>
wrote:

> If you're trying to connect with the connector unplugged, the "easiest"
> thing to do might be to get some male and female pins and make jumper wir=
es
> with them .   Finding the correct pins is the hard part of the easy
> solution.
>
>
If you can figure out which ones you need, getting the right pins is easy,
and even real OEM ones are usually pretty cheap.  The problem is there are
lots of choices, and they all require their own crimping dies, so it's hard
to keep them on hand just in case. For testing, you can probably get away
with the wrong tool, or soldering them on.  But if you're repairing a
connector, you want the right crimper; poorly crimped pins and socket ends
are a source of maddening intermittent failures and risk deciding a part
has failed when it's just the wire end that's bad.

One very real advantage of using the right pins is you can get a good sense
if you have a pin fit problem, which causes failures, often intermittent.
hard to do that with a probe or stick pin.

--=20
David Scheidt
dmscheidt@gmail.com

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">=
<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, May 23, 2024 at 11:21=E2=80=
=AFAM Jeff Scarbrough &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fishplate@gmail.com";>fishplate@=
gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding=
-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">If you&#39;re trying to connect with the connec=
tor unplugged, the &quot;easiest&quot; thing to do might be to get some mal=
e and female=C2=A0pins and make jumper wires with them .=C2=A0 =C2=A0Findin=
g the correct pins is the hard part of the easy solution.</div><br></blockq=
uote><div><br></div><div>If you can figure out which ones you need, getting=
 the right pins is easy, and even real OEM ones are usually pretty cheap.=
=C2=A0 The problem is there are lots of choices, and they all require their=
 own crimping dies, so it&#39;s hard to keep them on hand just in case. For=
 testing, you can probably get away with the wrong tool, or soldering them =
on.=C2=A0 But if you&#39;re repairing a connector, you want the right crimp=
er; poorly crimped pins and socket ends are a source of maddening intermitt=
ent failures and risk deciding a part has failed when it&#39;s just the wir=
e end that&#39;s bad.=C2=A0 <br></div><div><br></div><div>One very real adv=
antage of using the right pins is you can get a good sense if you have a pi=
n fit problem, which causes failures, often intermittent.=C2=A0 hard to do =
that with a probe or stick pin.=C2=A0 <br></div><br></div><span class=3D"gm=
ail_signature_prefix">-- </span><br><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signatu=
re">David Scheidt<br><a href=3D"mailto:dmscheidt@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blan=
k">dmscheidt@gmail.com</a></div></div>

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