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From: Neil Sherry <neiljsherry@talktalk.net> e4pnIkxrzpa6xiidLU09IXFcSkSe2B0Mfr3JkBlAr/DOXFoUFuEkIuP7KrreQ53vQ6ZhtVTE4iw6lg==
Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2022 09:28:42 +0000
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Hi Tim,

I agree with Karl - definitely not the right thing to fix a hole - your 
tin can would be better employed straight on the hole, if you can't do a 
welded repair. And there will be vibration in the pipe - flexipipe is 
mainly to cope with rocking back and forth of the engine as power goes 
on and off.

Neil


On 28/11/2022 00:42, Tim . wrote:
> Thanks Neil. This is down stream of the flex pipe that is still in 
> perfect condition. Does your reply still make sense then? (not trying 
> to be a troll, just try to save money on a car that is approaching the 
> end of reliable DD.)
>
> Thanks Karl. Same question to you: Does your reply still make sense 
> since I am down stream of the exhaust manifold?
>
> Again, thanks all for the replies. Just trying to extend the life of a 
> car that needs a lot of electrical work that I cannot even begin to do 
> myself.
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Shop-talk <shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Neil 
> Sherry <neiljsherry@talktalk.net>
> *Sent:* Sunday, November 27, 2022 12:57 PM
> *To:* shop-talk@autox.team.net <shop-talk@autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Shop-talk] header wrap
>
> Sandwiching it between the exhaust and a can will hammer it - not 
> surprised it fell apart! It'll be getting the vibration (relatively 
> low frequency) as well as the noise frequencies you were blocking - 
> that energy had to go somewhere...
>
> Neil
>
> On 27/11/2022 17:54, Tim . wrote:
>> I used a couple feet to patch a break and muffle the noise in an 
>> exhaust pipe on my wife's DD. It was held in place with a can and 
>> hose clamps. It worked fine for a couple weeks then started to get 
>> loud again. Yesterday I pulled the can to see what was going on and 
>> just about all the wrap was gone.
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
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    <p>Hi Tim,</p>
    <p>I agree with Karl - definitely not the right thing to fix a hole
      - your tin can would be better employed straight on the hole, if
      you can't do a welded repair. And there will be vibration in the
      pipe - flexipipe is mainly to cope with rocking back and forth of
      the engine as power goes on and off.</p>
    <p>Neil<br>
    </p>
    <p><br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 28/11/2022 00:42, Tim . wrote:<br>
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        Thanks Neil. This is down stream of the flex pipe that is still
        in perfect condition. Does your reply still make sense then?
        (not trying to be a troll, just try to save money on a car that
        is approaching the end of reliable DD.)</div>
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        Thanks Karl. Same question to you: Does your reply still make
        sense since I am down stream of the exhaust manifold?</div>
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        Again, thanks all for the replies. Just trying to extend the
        life of a car that needs a lot of electrical work that I cannot
        even begin to do myself. </div>
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      <div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font style="font-size:11pt"
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          Shop-talk <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
href="mailto:shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net";>&lt;shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net&gt;</a>
 on behalf
          of Neil Sherry <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
href="mailto:neiljsherry@talktalk.net";>&lt;neiljsherry@talktalk.net&gt;</a><br>
          <b>Sent:</b> Sunday, November 27, 2022 12:57 PM<br>
          <b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" 
href="mailto:shop-talk@autox.team.net";>shop-talk@autox.team.net</a>
          <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
href="mailto:shop-talk@autox.team.net";>&lt;shop-talk@autox.team.net&gt;</a><br>
          <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Shop-talk] header wrap</font>
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        <p>Sandwiching it between the exhaust and a can will hammer it -
          not surprised it fell apart! It'll be getting the vibration
          (relatively low frequency) as well as the noise frequencies
          you were blocking - that energy had to go somewhere...</p>
        <p>Neil<br>
        </p>
        <div class="x_moz-cite-prefix">On 27/11/2022 17:54, Tim . wrote:<br>
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            I used a couple feet to patch a break and muffle the noise
            in an exhaust pipe on my wife's DD. It was held in place
            with a can and hose clamps. It worked fine for a couple
            weeks then started to get loud again. Yesterday I pulled the
            can to see what was going on and just about all the wrap was
            gone.     </div>
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