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Re: [Shop-talk] led tubes and short memory

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Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] led tubes and short memory
From: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2022 10:39:19 -0800
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I re-wired 4 fluorescents in mom's kitchen for LEDs a few years ago. I 
bought new ballasts for them, then replaced with LED can lights this 
year. I've always wondered whether I needed the ballasts or not, all the 
'documentation' is pretty confusing. There must be some LED strips that 
need ballasts, and some that don't?


On 1/10/2022 9:25 AM, john niolon wrote:
> well Pat, that's another part of the problem...I have several older 4' 
> fixtures I'm trying to rewire for this project...I'm cheap
> I've opened three and all of them are wired differently
> j
>
>     *----- Original Message -----*
>     *From:* Pat Horne <patintexas@icloud.com>
>     *To:* john niolon <jniolon@att.net>
>     *Cc:* shop-talk <shop-talk@autox.team.net>
>     *Sent:* 1/10/2022 11:22:04 AM
>     *Subject:* Re: [Shop-talk] led tubes and short memory
>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>     John,
>
>     Iâ??m not familiar with Utilitec lamps, but the LED tube lamps I
>     have contacts on one end only & wire directly to the power.
>
>     If you havenâ??t purchased your fixtures yet, check out Prime Lights
>     in Austin TX. I installed 10 of their 3 lamp BOLT fixtures in my
>     shop & love them. Current price is $82/fixture, $74 if you buy 12.
>
>     Pat Horne
>     We support Habitat for Humanity
>
>
>     On Jan 10, 2022, at 11:13 AM, john niolon <jniolon@att.net> wrote:
>
>     
>     Couple of years ago I bought a box of Utilitech t81636f16-40...4'
>     led tubes...redid all my shop lights and was pleased with them
>     now I want to add some fixtures in another part of shop and my
>     memory has failed... I know I had to rewire fixtures to make them work
>     but can remember what I did and instruction sheet is long gone or
>     lost...
>     Utilititech was a Lowes brand and now discontinued and Utilitech
>     web site is a joke anyone tell me how to wire these bulbs up
>     either with or
>     without ballast..,....seems I remember they were non shunted
>     bulbs...but now sure
>     thanks
>     john
>

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    I re-wired 4 fluorescents in mom's kitchen for LEDs a few years ago.
    I bought new ballasts for them, then replaced with LED can lights
    this year. I've always wondered whether I needed the ballasts or
    not, all the 'documentation' is pretty confusing. There must be some
    LED strips that need ballasts, and some that don't? <br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/10/2022 9:25 AM, john niolon
      wrote:<br>
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      <div><font face="Segoe UI">well Pat, that's another part of the
          problem...I have several older 4' fixtures I'm trying to
          rewire for this project...I'm cheap</font></div>
      <div><font face="Segoe UI">I've opened three and all of them are
          wired differently </font></div>
      <div><font face="Segoe UI">j</font></div>
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        <div style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Segoe UI'; COLOR:
          #000000"><b>----- Original Message -----</b></div>
        <div style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Segoe UI'; COLOR:
          #000000"><b>From:</b> Pat Horne &lt;<a
            href="mailto:patintexas@icloud.com"; moz-do-not-send="true"
            class="moz-txt-link-freetext">patintexas@icloud.com</a>&gt;</div>
        <div style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Segoe UI'; COLOR:
          #000000"><b>To:</b> john niolon &lt;<a
            href="mailto:jniolon@att.net"; moz-do-not-send="true"
            class="moz-txt-link-freetext">jniolon@att.net</a>&gt;</div>
        <div style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Segoe UI'; COLOR:
          #000000"><b>Cc:</b> shop-talk &lt;<a
            href="mailto:shop-talk@autox.team.net";
            moz-do-not-send="true" 
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">shop-talk@autox.team.net</a>&gt;</div>
        <div style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Segoe UI'; COLOR:
          #000000"><b>Sent:</b> 1/10/2022 11:22:04 AM</div>
        <div style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Segoe UI'; COLOR:
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          memory</div>
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        John,
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Iâ??m not familiar with Utilitec lamps, but the LED tube
          lamps I have contacts on one end only &amp; wire directly to
          the power. </div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>If you havenâ??t purchased your fixtures yet, check out Prime
          Lights in Austin TX. I installed 10 of their 3 lamp BOLT
          fixtures in my shop &amp; love them. Current price is
          $82/fixture, $74 if you buy 12. <br>
          <br>
          <div dir="ltr">Pat Horne 
            <div>We support Habitat for Humanity</div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
          </div>
          <div dir="ltr"><br>
            On Jan 10, 2022, at 11:13 AM, john niolon
            <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
href="mailto:jniolon@att.net";>&lt;jniolon@att.net&gt;</a> wrote:<br>
            <br>
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            <div><font face="Segoe UI">Couple of years ago I bought a
                box of Utilitech t81636f16-40...4' led tubes...redid all
                my shop lights and was pleased with them</font></div>
            <div> </div>
            <div><font face="Segoe UI">now I want to add some fixtures
                in another part of shop and my memory has failed... I
                know I had to rewire fixtures to make them work</font></div>
            <div><font face="Segoe UI">but can remember what I did and
                instruction sheet is long gone or lost...</font></div>
            <div> </div>
            <div><font face="Segoe UI">Utilititech was a Lowes brand and
                now discontinued and Utilitech web site is a joke   
                anyone tell me how to wire these bulbs up either with 
or</font></div>
            <div><font face="Segoe UI">without ballast..,....seems I
                remember they were non shunted bulbs...but now sure</font></div>
            <div> </div>
            <div><font face="Segoe UI">thanks</font></div>
            <div><font face="Segoe UI">john</font></div>
            <span></span><br>
          </div>
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