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To: Mark Andy <marka@maracing.com> definitions=2020-08-12_13:2020-08-11, 2020-08-12 signatures=0 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 clxscore=1011 mlxscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-2004280000 definitions=main-2008120114
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Looking to buy a compressor
From: Pat Horne <patintexas@icloud.com>
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2020 12:33:36 -0500
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I=E2=80=99m in central Texas with a 60 gallon compressor with a small point o=
f use water precipitator at my blast cabinet. EVen draining the tank daily t=
he precipitator About every 10 minutes. There is also a Dick sander running o=
n the same compressor. The compressor cycles so I=E2=80=99m using about 10 C=
FM. Much more water than I=E2=80=99d like.=20

Currently 93=C2=B0 & 45%

Peace,
Pat


Pat Horne=20
We support Habitat for Humanity


On Aug 12, 2020, at 11:31 AM, Mark Andy <marka@maracing.com> wrote:

=EF=BB=BF
Howdy,

Are you painting or in a super high humidity environment or something?  My e=
xperience with compressors is that mostly I can remember to drain the tank e=
very now and then and it all "just works" without any elaborate coolers / se=
parators / whatever.

YMMV.

Mark

> On Wed, Aug 12, 2020 at 11:53 AM Darrell Walker <darrellw360@mac.com> wrot=
e:
>=20
> The transmission cooler I=E2=80=99m looking to use is a "stacked plate=E2=80=
=9D design, and has a pressure rating of 200 PSI.  It says it has a 29,200 B=
TU rating:
>=20
> https://www.summitracing.com/parts/BMM-70274
>=20
> I do plan to put a small box fan to blow through it as well.
>=20
> Here are some pictures, but these all seem to be between the compressor an=
d tank, mine will be mounted on the wall after the tank.
>=20
> https://www.cnccookbook.com/aftercooling-a-compressor-to-cut-down-on-moist=
ure/
>=20
>=20
> -Darrell
>=20
>=20
>> On Aug 12, 2020, at 8:35 AM, Jeff Scarbrough <fishplate@gmail.com> wrote:=

>>=20
>> Good point.  I hadn't thought of air flow rate.  Hook several in parallel=
?
>>=20
>> On Wed, Aug 12, 2020 at 11:26 AM DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com> wrote:=

>>> That's a clever idea.  It is an excellent heat exchanger and is good for=
 the pressure.  But it could restrict air flow.  Most are just a long, serpe=
ntine tube with fins.  It all depends on what air tools you are using.  It i=
s possible that you couldn't run a sand blast cabinet through it.  But you c=
ould hook up the high volume users to bypass the cooler and save the dry air=
 for the tools that need it.
>>>=20
>>> Dave=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Jeff Scarbrough <fishplate@gmail.com>
>>> To: shop-talk@autox.team.net <Shop-talk@autox.team.net>
>>> Sent: Wed, Aug 12, 2020 10:12 am
>>> Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Looking to buy a compressor
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> On Wed, Aug 12, 2020 at 11:08 AM Pat Horne <patintexas@icloud.com> wrote=
:
>>>=20
>>> I=E2=80=99d be concerned with using a transmission cooler for an aIr coo=
ler because they are not designed for pressure use. I wouldn=E2=80=99t think=
 a trans cooler would need to be rated at more than 10psi.
>>>=20
>>> An air conditioner condenser would probably be better.  It even has "con=
denser" in the name....=20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">I=E2=80=99m in central Texas with a 60 gall=
on compressor with a small point of use water precipitator at my blast cabin=
et. EVen draining the tank daily the precipitator About every 10 minutes. Th=
ere is also a Dick sander running on the same compressor. The compressor cyc=
les so I=E2=80=99m using about 10 CFM. Much more water than I=E2=80=99d like=
.&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>Currently 93=C2=B0 &amp; 45%</div><div><br></div>=
<div>Peace,</div><div>Pat</div><div><br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Pat Horne&nbsp;=
<div>We support Habitat for Humanity</div><div><br></div></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr"><br>On Aug 12, 2020, at 11:31 AM, Mark Andy &lt;marka@maracing.com&gt; w=
rote:<br><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div dir=3D"ltr">Howdy,<div><br=
></div><div>Are you painting or in a super high humidity environment or some=
thing?&nbsp; My experience with compressors is that mostly I can remember to=
 drain the tank every now and then and it all "just works" without any elabo=
rate coolers / separators / whatever.<br><br>YMMV.<br><br>Mark</div></div><b=
r><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, A=
ug 12, 2020 at 11:53 AM Darrell Walker &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:darrellw360@mac=
.com">darrellw360@mac.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail=
_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,=
204);padding-left:1ex"><div style=3D"overflow-wrap: break-word;"><div><br></=
div>The transmission cooler I=E2=80=99m looking to use is a "stacked plate=E2=
=80=9D design, and has a pressure rating of 200 PSI.&nbsp; It says it has a&=
nbsp;29,200 BTU rating:<div><br></div><div><a href=3D"https://www.summitraci=
ng.com/parts/BMM-70274" target=3D"_blank">https://www.summitracing.com/parts=
/BMM-70274</a><br><div><br></div><div>I do plan to put a small box fan to bl=
ow through it as well.</div><div><br></div><div>Here are some pictures, but t=
hese all seem to be between the compressor and tank, mine will be mounted on=
 the wall after the tank.</div><div><br></div><div><a href=3D"https://www.cn=
ccookbook.com/aftercooling-a-compressor-to-cut-down-on-moisture/" target=3D"=
_blank">https://www.cnccookbook.com/aftercooling-a-compressor-to-cut-down-on=
-moisture/</a></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>-Darrell</div><div><b=
r><div><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>On Aug 12, 2020, at 8:35 AM, Jeff S=
carbrough &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fishplate@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">fishp=
late@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br><div><div dir=3D"ltr">Good point.&nbs=
p; I hadn't thought of air flow rate.&nbsp; Hook several in parallel?</div><=
br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, A=
ug 12, 2020 at 11:26 AM DAVID MASSEY &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dave1massey@cs.co=
m" target=3D"_blank">dave1massey@cs.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote c=
lass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid=
 rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div style=3D"font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;=
font-stretch:normal;font-size:12pt;line-height:normal;font-family:Arial,Helv=
etica,sans-serif">
<div> <font size=3D"3">That's a clever idea.&nbsp; It is an excellent heat e=
xchanger and is good for the pressure.&nbsp; But it could restrict air flow.=
&nbsp; Most are just a long, serpentine tube with fins.&nbsp; It all depends=
 on what air tools you are using.&nbsp; It is possible that you couldn't run=
 a sand blast cabinet through it.&nbsp; But you could hook up the high volum=
e users to bypass the cooler and save the dry air for the tools that need it=
.</font><br>
</div>

<div> <br>
</div>

<div style=3D"clear:both"><font size=3D"4">Dave </font><br>
<br>
</div>

<div> <br>
</div>

<div> <br>
</div>

<div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica;font-size:10pt">-----Original Mess=
age-----<br>
From: Jeff Scarbrough &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fishplate@gmail.com"; target=3D"_=
blank">fishplate@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
To: <a href=3D"mailto:shop-talk@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">shop-talk@=
autox.team.net</a> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:Shop-talk@autox.team.net"; target=3D=
"_blank">Shop-talk@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br>
Sent: Wed, Aug 12, 2020 10:12 am<br>
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Looking to buy a compressor<br>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">On Wed, Aug 12, 2020 at 11:08 AM Pat Horne &lt;<a rel=3D"no=
follow" shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:patintexas@icloud.com"; target=3D"_blan=
k">patintexas@icloud.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"></div>
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204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br clear=3D"none">
I=E2=80=99d be concerned with using a transmission cooler for an aIr cooler b=
ecause they are not designed for pressure use. I wouldn=E2=80=99t think a tr=
ans cooler would need to be rated at more than 10psi. </blockquote></div>

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<div>An air conditioner condenser would probably be better.&nbsp; It even ha=
s "condenser" in the name....&nbsp;</div>
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</div>
</div>
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