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Re: [Shop-talk] M*th%&$#c<ing small engines d*mn again

To: alfuller194@gmail.com, "shop-talk@autox.team.net" <Shop-talk@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] M*th%&$#c<ing small engines d*mn again
From: Scott Hall <scott.hall.personal@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2020 16:09:02 -0500
Delivered-to: mharc@autox.team.net
Delivered-to: Shop-talk@autox.team.net
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The carb is getting fuel. I can see it in the fuel lines and it pumps using
the primer bulb.

The symptoms are identical with the old and new carb. I can't see the end
of the fuel line but the only remaining fuel issue could be that the new
fuel filter (a pumice stone-like thing on the end of the fuel line) could
be restrictive. Working against that theory is that it did the same thing
with the old fuel filter.

I don't think the problem is the fuel system. The problem is...what's left?
I swapped the spark plug just to do it.

It's a four-cycle engine. Might the valves (like the intake and exhaust
valves in the head) come out of adjustment? This condition has been
developing over more than a year...perhaps the valves are slowly coming out
of adjustment?

I don't know what conditions un-adjusted valves cause. I can't think of
what else it could be.

On Wed, Aug 5, 2020 at 3:23 PM <alfuller194@gmail.com> wrote:

> Can you confirm whether it is actually getting fuel to the carb? Try
> starting it with ether/carb cleaner/gasoline directly to the carb?
>
>
>
> ----------------
>
> All the best,
>
>
>
> Al Fuller
>
>
>
> *From:* Shop-talk <shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Scott
> Hall
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 5, 2020 4:06 PM
> *To:* Shop-talk@autox.team.net
> *Subject:* [Shop-talk] M*th%&$#c<ing small engines d*mn again
>
>
>
> Troy Bilt four-stroke backpack leaf blower.
>
>
>
> Replaced the carb and plug.
>
>
>
> No change in symptoms: hard start, choke useless, engine bogs on
> application of throttle.
>
>
>
> That sounds like fuel/air to me. That's the carb. The carb and plug are
> brand new. The old carb and plug look fine and it's doing the same thing.
> The carb isn't the problem.
>
>
>
> I am literally out of ideas. Any idea what to look at next before I just
> toss it?
>
>
>
> Thanks and (*&^*&%&#()_#@&*$&#^&^%.
>
>
>
> Scott
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">The carb is getting fuel. I can see it in the fuel lines a=
nd it pumps using the primer bulb.=C2=A0<div><br></div><div>The symptoms ar=
e identical with the old and new carb. I can&#39;t see the end of the fuel =
line but the only remaining fuel issue could be that the new fuel filter (a=
 pumice stone-like thing on the end of the fuel line) could be restrictive.=
 Working against that theory is that it did the same thing with the old fue=
l filter.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>I don&#39;t think the problem is t=
he fuel system. The problem is...what&#39;s left? I swapped the spark plug =
just to do it.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>It&#39;s a four-cycle engine.=
 Might the valves (like the intake and exhaust valves in the head) come out=
 of adjustment? This condition has been developing over more than a year...=
perhaps the valves are slowly coming out of adjustment?</div><div><br></div=
><div>I don&#39;t know what conditions un-adjusted valves cause. I can&#39;=
t think of what else it could be.</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"=
><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Aug 5, 2020 at 3:23 PM &lt;<=
a href=3D"mailto:alfuller194@gmail.com";>alfuller194@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote=
:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.=
8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang=3D"E=
N-US"><div class=3D"gmail-m_6250196434153488190WordSection1"><p class=3D"Ms=
oNormal">Can you confirm whether it is actually getting fuel to the carb? T=
ry starting it with ether/carb cleaner/gasoline directly to the carb?<u></u=
><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoN=
ormal">----------------<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">All the bes=
t,<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal">Al Fuller<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=
=A0<u></u></p><div style=3D"border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-lef=
t:none;border-top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0in 0in"><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Shop-talk &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:shop-talk-bounc=
es@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net</a>&g=
t; <b>On Behalf Of </b>Scott Hall<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, August 5, 2020=
 4:06 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:Shop-talk@autox.team.net"; target=
=3D"_blank">Shop-talk@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [Shop-talk] M*t=
h%&amp;$#c&lt;ing small engines d*mn again<u></u><u></u></p></div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Troy Bil=
t four-stroke backpack=C2=A0leaf blower.<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class=3D"=
MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Replac=
ed the carb and plug.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u=
></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">No change in sympto=
ms: hard start, choke useless, engine bogs on application of throttle.<u></=
u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></di=
v><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">That sounds like fuel/air to me. That&#39;s t=
he carb. The carb and plug are brand new. The old carb and plug look fine a=
nd it&#39;s doing the same thing. The carb isn&#39;t the problem.<u></u><u>=
</u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><di=
v><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I am literally out of ideas. Any idea what to look=
 at next before I just toss it?<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thanks an=
d (*&amp;^*&amp;%&amp;#()_#@&amp;*$&amp;#^&amp;^%.<u></u><u></u></p></div><=
div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"M=
soNormal">Scott<u></u><u></u></p></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div=
>

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